--- Log for 09.09.120 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 9 hours ago 00.16.48 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.22.53 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.43.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.57.57 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 01.13.19 Part atrt7 01.15.19 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 01.18.03 Quit atrt7 (Client Quit) 01.38.38 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 01.39.05 Quit livvy (Remote host closed the connection) 01.40.18 Quit ufdm_ (Quit: Leaving) 01.40.32 Join ufdm [0] (~ufdm@c-73-164-63-214.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.55.14 Quit atrt7 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 02.33.23 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 02.43.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.53.42 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 02.55.44 Join johnb4 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3afed9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.07.04 Join petur [0] (~petur@77.77.179.66) 03.07.04 Quit petur (Changing host) 03.07.04 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 03.15.05 Quit johnb4 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 04.00.07 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 04.03.54 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 04.17.32 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 04.17.59 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 04.19.19 Quit St3ak (Client Quit) 04.22.17 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 04.38.06 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 04.38.18 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 04.43.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.06.32 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@ip5b40ccc1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 05.06.36 Quit kugel_ (Changing host) 05.06.36 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 05.08.08 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.43.12 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 05.43.31 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 05.51.24 Quit t0mato (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.00.49 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 06.42.03 Join ufdm_ [0] (~ufdm@c-73-164-63-214.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 06.42.03 Quit ufdm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.43.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.23.09 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 07.29.15 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 07.31.35 Quit Soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.31.58 Join Soap_ [0] (~Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 07.51.23 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 07.51.39 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 07.52.15 Quit St3ak (Remote host closed the connection) 07.52.29 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 07.57.38 Quit ufdm_ (Quit: Leaving) 07.57.52 Join ufdm [0] (~ufdm@c-73-164-63-214.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.25.22 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4e82f.dyn.optonline.net) 08.25.37 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 08.26.05 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 08.43.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.44 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 09.20.42 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 09.24.04 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 09.24.39 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 09.42.01 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 09.53.18 Quit mendel_munkis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.53.40 Join mendel_munkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb138.dyn.optonline.net) 09.54.01 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.04.11 Quit ufdm (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.43.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.58 Quit bonfire (Remote host closed the connection) 10.45.24 Join bonfire [0] (~bonfire@c-73-52-134-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 11.37.55 Join Rower [0] (~Rower@78-73-72-39-no2340.tbcn.telia.com) 11.51.26 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 12.01.07 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 12.13.54 Quit petur (Quit: Connection reset by beer) 12.34.45 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 12.43.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.45.05 Quit atrt7 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 12.45.21 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 13.13.03 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5acf9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 13.16.29 Quit atrt7 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 13.32.43 Join Joshua [0] (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 13.33.00 # Hey there any devs on? I need help with something 13.33.08 Nick Joshua is now known as Guest93341 (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 13.34.13 # Anybody here 13.35.44 # I've created a new firmware and edited the source code to change the vid and pid 13.36.02 # And i need help figuring out how to select the firmware on rockbox to install it 13.41.47 # It's so my usb connection can be detected on my cars radio as mass USB and not ipod 13.51.55 # Email me at josh24cor@gmail.com any fixed or tutorials for windows 10 please 13.52.01 Quit Guest93341 (Remote host closed the connection) 14.10.24 Join craftyguy_ [0] (~craftyguy@qutebrowser/dev/craftyguy) 14.15.18 Nick craftyguy_ is now known as craftyguy (~craftyguy@qutebrowser/dev/craftyguy) 14.19.19 Quit craftyguy (Quit: WeeChat 2.9) 14.20.06 Join craftyguy [0] (~craftyguy@qutebrowser/dev/craftyguy) 14.23.23 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-66.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 14.25.35 Join Josh24cor [0] (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 14.25.47 Quit Josh24cor (Remote host closed the connection) 14.31.15 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 14.40.54 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 14.43.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.19.12 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 15.21.39 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 15.30.32 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 16.43.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.55 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 17.23.02 Quit Moarc (Quit: i znowu NADMUCHAŁ BALONA) 17.23.31 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.24.57 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 17.31.45 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 17.32.38 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@05467834.skybroadband.com) 17.44.32 Join __Bilgus [0] (41ba23be@65.186.35.190) 17.48.50 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 17.50.21 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 17.58.15 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 17.58.36 Join JanC [0] (~janc@lugwv/member/JanC) 18.15.48 Join t0mato8 [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 18.16.22 Quit t0mato (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.16.23 Nick t0mato8 is now known as t0mato (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 18.21.05 Quit __Bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 18.37.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.43.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.53.20 Quit Oksana (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.04.30 Join Oksana [0] (~Wikiwide@Maemo/community/ex-council/Wikiwide) 19.16.26 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.17.14 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@55d470fb.access.ecotel.net) 19.19.48 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.20.01 Quit fs-bluebot_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.37.03 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 19.39.38 Quit atrt7 (Client Quit) 19.40.42 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 19.50.36 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 19.54.20 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.54.33 Join josh24cor [0] (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 19.54.42 # Hey guys! i need some help with my iPod classic 6th gen. 19.54.42 # write the new firmware on my iPod? or if somebody could compile me one that would work as a mass USB storage device (USB) 19.55.44 Quit speachy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.08.08 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@209.2.65.77) 20.21.15 # I don't understand the question josh24cor 20.30.55 # change the vendor id so when i plug it in, its not "ipod" but shown as a usb device to my cars stereo 20.31.04 # so i can red all my songs thru usb 20.32.06 # huh, your car refuses to read it as a mass storage device because of the vendor id? 20.32.18 # car audio system firmwares are so obnoxious... 20.32.53 # well that does seem possible to spoof. I don't know for sure. 20.34.59 # yeah i have the custom build i made for it 20.35.40 # i need to find a way to write it to my ipod but no idea how thru rockbox, you cant point to the location, it just downloads the bootloader automatically 20.38.11 # if you compiled it then all you need to do is take the zipfile that's built and unzip it into the root directory of the ipod 20.39.47 # how do i do that? i have folders like (android, apps, backdrops, bootloader, debian, docs, firmware, flash, fonts, gdb, icons, lib etc 20.40.14 # dhttps://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/HowToCompile 20.40.58 # i did compile it on linux but once i have it compiled not sure what to do 20.41.06 # kinda stops at the end after all the commands 20.41.07 # make zip 20.41.17 # it creates a file called 'rockbox.zip' 20.42.27 # Or, If building for a Coldfire target (Iriver H100, H300; Iaudio M / X, MPIO): 20.42.33 # which one would i choose? 20.42.49 # ohh nvm 20.42.59 # thanks for the link i will investigate and compile 20.43.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.46.49 # awesome compiling now! 20.47.17 # reminds me of a usb related idea I had for rockbox a while ago, but never actually did >_> 20.47.52 # im running ubuntu right now on windows 10, once i have the file compiled how do i actually get the zip out of there? XD or on the ipod? 20.49.40 # i have rockbox-full.zip 20.51.40 # however you transfer files out of the VM 20.52.25 # no idea i followed instructions from rockbox to download ubuntu from the microsoft store i will dig more hahaha 20.52.42 # cp rockbox-full.zip /mnt/c/ 20.53.54 # cannot create regular file '/mnt/c/rockbox-full.zip': permission denied 20.54.17 # add 'sudo' to that? 20.54.39 # were getting somewhere 20.54.47 # sorry, try again. 20.55.00 # yeah same error 20.55.04 # cp rockbox-full.zip /mnt/c/Documents\ and\ Settings/USERNAME 20.55.16 # replace USERNAME with your windows username 20.55.34 # if unsure: ls /mnt/c/Documents\ and\ Settings/ 20.56.23 # i think that worked 20.56.45 # ok it's in C:\Users\USERNAME 20.56.59 # YESSSSS 20.57.08 # thank you so much Galois 20.57.51 # time to test it out 21.00.04 # okay so i replaced .rockbox, i will have to test it in the car later to see if it worked many thankjs again 21.03.18 Quit josh24cor (Remote host closed the connection) 21.13.13 Join joshua [0] (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 21.13.14 # its me again 21.13.19 # last question 21.13.37 Nick joshua is now known as Guest7019 (8ea78203@142.167.130.3) 21.14.07 # so i edited the ipodvideo.h but when i wrote the code to actuallly select it and add it it gave me an error i forgot the code i had to write 21.15.10 # git commit i think it was 21.16.28 # git commit , ir returns please tell me who you are' 21.17.34 # i did git add filename firmware/export/config/ipodvideo.h then the next step was to do git commit 21.19.29 # ...okay? so your question is..? 21.20.00 # it returns please tell me who you are 21.20.08 # when i do git commit 21.20.25 # you don't need to commit things in order to do builds 21.20.25 # i dont think thats the way its supposed to run 21.20.26 Join atrt7 [0] (~atrt7@47.187.107.124) 21.20.49 # the simple edit will do and apply in my build if i saved ipodvideo.h? 21.21.07 # https://docs.github.com/en/github/using-git/setting-your-username-in-git 21.21.13 # and yes, it will 21.21.19 # hm 21.21.39 # okay thanks im in a dead end then since i tried and didnt work in my car, i will try different vendor ids 21.29.26 Quit Guest7019 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.30.16 Quit atrt7 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 21.42.13 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.43.16 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 21.44.25 Join amiconn [0] (jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.13.22 Quit t0mato (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 22.14.25 Join ufdm [0] (~ufdm@c-73-164-63-214.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 22.17.01 # speachy: interesting. i'm getting faster write speeds in a different PP port... the philips gogear hdd1630. 22.17.21 # like 10 mb/s peak at points 22.17.33 # after i performed the cf mod 22.19.41 # didn't know the original microdrives were so much slower than flash based CF 22.20.01 # then again i guess not surprising given the size. 22.20.42 # actually it depends -- microdrives compared favorably to typical CF cards of their day, at least when it came to sequential read/write 22.21.25 # (microdrives were also much cheaper than equivalent amounts of flash too) 22.21.37 # (if equivalent amounts were even possible) 22.22.03 # i just replaced the original microdrive of the unit with a modern 32GB CF card. 22.22.12 # 6GB to 32GB 22.22.16 # but eventually flash got dense enough, and cheap enough, to render the entire microdrive approach irrelevent. 22.22.23 # reads went up about 3.5x in my tests 22.22.45 # writes about 4x to a peak of 13 MB/s in bulk aligned writes 22.23.40 # speachy: i noticed rockbox only seems to ever use UDMA 2 even though PP is supposedly capable of UDMA 4. any ideas why? 22.24.44 # i mean the spec sheet for 5020 and 5022 says it can do ATA/66 which is UDMA 4... 22.24.49 # not sure offhand; IIRC the ata code parses out the identity info and use the highest speed possible 22.25.04 # I see. 22.25.44 # just interesting to see how you can upgrade these ancient mp3 players where you can't really with modern ones because the storage is usually soldered 22.25.54 # at best you can use an addon sd card 22.26.54 # i just wish i could turn off the button LEDs on the gogear... i wonder if there's a setting for that. 22.26.55 # braewoods: MAX_ATA_UDMA is restricted based on the max cpu clock speed. see firmware/target/arm/pp/ata-target.h 22.27.27 # i see. 22.27.39 # so it won't go beyond 2 because the PP cpu is 80 or 100 mhz only 22.28.09 # more or less, yep. according to the comment to use UDMA4 the cpu needs to be boosted and it only gains about 10% 22.28.30 # but that would have applied to the spinning rust drives, not flash replacements 22.29.03 # just strange i don't see anything close to saturation of the usb 2.0 interface 22.29.07 # but there are probably clock divider restrictions in play that effectively cap UDMA speeds. 22.29.09 # i guess hardware limits 22.29.23 # i mean, i see it for reads but not writes 22.29.58 # speachy: am i correct in thinking that CF microdrives are basically dead? i can't see any new ones being produced. 22.30.05 # the final ipod classics have UDMA4 enabled; they also have a considerably faster SoC and much faster drives than earlier generations 22.30.29 # braewoods: the ipod minis were the last real hurrah of the microdrive. 22.30.30 # ah. they left PP behind? 22.30.33 Join t0mato [0] (~t0mato@193.32.127.155) 22.30.54 # yeah, they moved to a samsung SoC 22.31.04 # i don't think rockbox has any ports for that? 22.31.37 # Oh. It does but marked unstable. 22.31.39 # it encompasses the ipod "classic" (ie 6/7G) and nano 1g/2g IIRC. 22.32.29 # I recall reading that the most bestest PP player was the one packard bell put out. 22.32.52 # how well does rockbox work with modern codecs on the limited PP SoC? 22.32.52 # used the most performant/capble/bugfixed PP variant 22.33.04 # e.g., opus 22.33.29 # IIRC 1st-gen PPs (500x) can't handle the more intensive codecs in realtime. 2nd-gen can handle everything, but only barely. 22.33.46 # and opus is more intensive? 22.34.12 # i assume flac is too. 22.34.15 # https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison 22.34.31 # flac isn't bad, actually -- it's the I/O throughput requirement that's a lot higher. 22.34.34 # ok. that works. 22.34.45 # but with a CF card it should be fast enough. 22.35.34 # that page only has the 502x PP though. 22.36.16 # (the 500x had nominally the same clock rate but there was a flaw that effectively halved its actual performance) 22.37.54 # basically I think you can assume anything in the PP502x list that's under 200% realtime won't cut it on the 502x. Worse if you turn on DSP functions like the equalizer, surround, etc etc. 22.41.04 # my ipod video 5.5g handles just about anything i throw at it in rockbox but .ape files 22.41.21 # idk whats up with them but it just doesnt work well 22.41.31 # kind of locks up the ipod until i can get it to skip the song 22.42.40 # Lonoxmont: according to that (now decade-old) codec comparison page, larger bitrate ape files can't be done in realtime on the PP502x 22.43.24 # yeah that explains a lot 22.43.49 # scales pretty linearly, actually. (it's not the bitrate, it's the nominal compression level) 22.43.49 # its some kind of classical music iirc, so its gonna have a hueg bitrate whether it needs it or not 22.43.51 # ( ≖‿≖) 22.43.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.44.30 # anything over c2000 is a lost cause 22.44.57 # i have no idea how it was encoded, i got it somewhere else 22.45.06 # i dont really remember where actually :B 22.57.24 # Build Server message: New build round started. 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