--- Log for 23.09.120 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 25 days and 9 hours ago 00.06.36 Join _bilgus__ [0] (~bilgus@2605:a000:1301:89bd:d51d:f89d:4aac:7de4) 00.07.27 Quit _bilgus_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.50.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.14.37 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 01.23.34 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5acf9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 01.28.18 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.45.00 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:c8e1:70c4:92ff:bd1b) 01.49.31 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.50.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.28.15 Join petur [0] (~petur@80.169.83.226) 03.28.15 Quit petur (Changing host) 03.28.15 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 03.49.58 Quit paulk-leonov (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.55.59 Join paulk-leonov [0] (~paulk-leo@vpn-0-22.aquilenet.fr) 04.01.35 Quit kugel_ (Remote host closed the connection) 04.01.43 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.50.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.47.32 Join vmx [0] (~vmx@ip5f5ac60f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 05.47.46 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06.17.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip5b40cd53.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 06.17.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 06.17.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 06.46.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.50.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.47 Quit SammysHP (Quit: *wuff*) 07.03.06 Join SammysHP [0] (~SammysHP@faol.sammyshp.de) 07.26.36 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@ip5b40ccc1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 07.26.36 Quit kugel_ (Changing host) 07.26.36 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.27.52 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.35.39 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 07.36.11 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 07.43.47 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.00.20 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@pdpc/supporter/active/cockroach) 08.12.49 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.21.05 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.44.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.44.04 Quit vmx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.50.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.50.54 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4e82f.dyn.optonline.net) 09.20.43 Join PimpiN8 [0] (~PimpiN8@2001:1c04:3309:f200:ac3d:e1ef:973b:63ea) 09.21.02 Nick PimpiN8 is now known as shh (~PimpiN8@2001:1c04:3309:f200:ac3d:e1ef:973b:63ea) 09.23.37 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.27.13 Join vmx [0] (~vmx@ip5f5ac60f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 09.33.38 Quit shh (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 10.00.22 # braewoods: i'm pretty sure rocker is going to be it 10.00.44 # braewoods: i have to admit that i did not click the order button yet, though 10.02.39 # but still, i guess for the money you can't go much wrong with the rocker 10.04.03 Quit koniu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.06.22 # genevino: ah. i've rebuilt older models and upgraded their internal storage. 10.06.31 # at least where that's possible. 10.06.43 # mostly possible with really old mp3 players that used small hard drives 10.11.44 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 10.12.48 # though not sure how practical it is to do that with ipods... they need itunes to work properly and Apple has started dropping support for older stuff. 10.12.49 # yeah, but that raises the entry price and aggrivation factor to get started. 10.13.02 # braewoods: well i fear having to use a device that has no rbutil integration (yet) 10.13.12 # genevino: i see. 10.13.21 # braewoods: but maybe that will just be simple :) 10.13.29 # i'm currently repairing an old philips gogear 10.13.48 # the previous one, same model series, was worn but works fine afaik 10.13.56 # upgraded to CF storage 10.14.00 # oh nice 10.14.32 # but it required windows xp to get it working since the firmware updater required a specific environment 10.14.40 # but it's still doable 10.14.52 # mostly just need an old pc that can still run windows xp 10.15.32 # you need the right tools for this one though so not the best coice if you're new 10.15.41 # an allen wrench, among others 10.15.52 # to disassemble it 10.16.11 # but you can still buy replacement batteries 10.16.17 # hmm 10.16.45 # there's also iriver stuff like the H10. H10 though i'd only suggest the... 10.17.03 # fat model. it's next to impossible to find replacement drives for the skinny ones. 10.17.07 # which is the 20GB one. 10.17.19 # it uses 1.8" 40 pin zif 10.17.36 # you can either replace it with a 40 pin zif ssd or use an adapter to install a CF card 10.17.58 # the gogear i have doesn't need one since it already uses CF card, just the HDD varian 10.18.00 # variant 10.18.25 # i think though CF cards only go to 256GB 10.18.45 # but again not all firmwares support stuff that high 10.18.51 # they usually support at 32G though 10.18.55 # at least 10.19.15 # and don't expect IO rates to be super high. though my gogear is much faster than the iriver h10 10.19.28 # writes are nearly double in the gogear using a fast CF card 10.19.51 # around 12-13 mb/s vs the iriver's ~5 MB/s 10.20.00 # even with a much faster card 10.20.15 # so the bottleneck is likely the hardware not the card 10.21.25 # genevino: one other problem with these older models is they used proprietary connectors so you need a new source if they don't have the original charger. there is one available though. 10.21.41 # genevino: gomadic sells 'em. 10.21.53 # e.g., https://www.gomadic.com/iriver-h10-5gb-straight-power-hot-sync-charge-charger-usb-cable.html 10.22.18 # braewoods: i'm confused 10.22.22 # about? 10.22.29 # braewoods: mp3 players 10.22.36 # ah. 10.22.53 # there's lots of models. 10.23.14 # i picked the gogear to try out a microdrive model 10.23.21 # it's smaller and doesn't need an adapter. 10.23.24 # braewoods: well i just want like, the best one to run rockbox on currently. 10.23.24 # but trickier to open. 10.23.38 # braewoods: preferably well supported, too. 10.23.48 # that's mainly old stuff 10.24.08 # so are you saying i should just get used to building my own fw? 10.24.37 # not really as the stuff in GIT isn't really considered stable 10.24.50 # it takes a good while for something to get labeled that 10.24.55 # it's mostly older ports like the PP stuff 10.25.19 # but the problem with the older ones is they don't usually come upgraded for modern usage 10.25.36 # so you usually have to be willing to do a bit of modding 10.25.58 # plus their batteries may be severely depleted 10.26.10 # depending on how much usage they saw 10.26.30 # but i do find old junkers i can make usable with rockbox on ebay 10.27.09 # i've found 2 gogears for $20 on ebay in total that were "for parts or repair" 10.27.16 # first one just was dead from not being charged. 10.27.23 # upgraded storage to 32GB and new battery. 10.27.31 # total cost, not counting charger... around $50 10.27.34 # heh :) 10.28.04 # you can try larger CF cards or even use a CF to SD card adapter 10.28.29 # i just chose 32GB since that's the usual barrier in embedded FAT 10.28.39 # you have to be careful with those "parts or repair" units, sometimes they are genuinely dead. 10.28.44 # indeed. 10.28.54 # sometimes it's just a lack of charger 10.29.56 # genevino: US based? I could sell you one of my finished upgrades perhaps? Though obviously it would be a bit more expensive. 10.30.27 # And the unit has wear from being used. 10.30.30 # braewoods: unfortunately i'm in DE 10.30.34 # Ah. Ok. 10.30.39 # braewoods: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ipod-classic-rot-rockbox-256-gb-iflash-sdxc-sehr-guter-zustand/1516212654-172-9267 10.30.41 # philips was mainly US anyway 10.30.51 # braewoods: stuff like this sometimes pops up on the local ebay thing 10.31.25 # genevino: camerino sino seems to make a lot of random batteries for small electronics like these 10.31.37 # cameron sino* 10.31.56 # it's usually the brand I end up with when buying replacements 10.31.59 # for specific models 10.32.14 # sometimes they have more mAH than the original 10.32.33 # genevino: that ebay listing seems quite expensive, I built a similar-ish setup with a 256GB SD in an iflash adapter in a 5.5th gen video for ~80€, probably less 10.32.34 # but the biggest improvement in battery life is switching to flash storage CF 10.33.24 # genevino: yea, ok. work with what you got in your local market. 10.33.26 # t0mato: any way to get a ready to use device in DE? 10.34.21 # genevino: a german person I know said they had iaudio devices for their rockbox. 10.34.29 # let me see which ones were there. 10.34.38 # rofl 10.34.42 # https://www.ebay.de/itm/COWON-iAUDIO-X5-120-GB-SSD/164392819756 10.35.26 # genevino: not that I'm aware of, but sourcing a usable ipod from kleinanzeigen, the iflash from ebay, and the sd from amazon wasn't hard, and neither was assembly, even as someone not *that* used to hardware modding 10.35.26 # nice, but not exactly cheap :) 10.35.45 # t0mato: ok nice 10.35.50 # check out the iaudio stuff... maybe others are in your area 10.36.17 # genevino: CF cards are a good upgrade for these older players because they're basically flash based IDE devices 10.36.33 # which a lot of older electronics use internally 10.37.07 # https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide 10.37.16 # for reference if you decide to get creative 10.37.28 # it's very old but a lot of the information is still valid 10.37.50 # the "no adapter" ones are models that use CF microdrives 10.38.01 # very small list 10.38.07 # this gogear is one of the few 10.39.12 # but yea... ebay to find old working units (or ones you can fix) is a good place to start 10.39.25 # then you can replace storage and batteries to refresh it 10.40.11 # gomadic could be useful if you need to buy a charger but you'd have to import that 10.40.29 # it's only $18 US so i can't see import duties being too high. 10.40.59 # anything below <22€ is free to import in Germany 10.41.05 # ...at least until 2021 10.42.35 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 10.50.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.55.34 Quit vmx (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.10.49 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5acf9f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 12.12.27 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.15.38 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.31.53 Join vmx [0] (~vmx@ip5f5ac60f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 12.32.13 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:3835:2f2e:4d72:3a14) 12.32.53 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.36.47 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.44.21 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:d483:abf0:d23b:1a26) 12.50.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.51.31 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 13.52.05 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-66.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 13.53.17 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 13.55.08 Quit St3ak (Remote host closed the connection) 13.56.14 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 13.57.04 Quit St3ak (Remote host closed the connection) 13.58.07 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 14.03.35 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 14.04.11 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 14.08.13 Quit St3ak (Client Quit) 14.08.42 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 14.10.30 # so what about the "xduoo x3ii"? device list says it's well supported, is that a good go? 14.12.10 # as I said earlier, it's not seen much polishing, but it basically works. it will only improve from here. 14.13.46 # btw agptek rocker is listed as even supported fully by rbutil 14.13.58 # so that's probably the safest bet 14.15.12 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 14.16.59 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 14.25.43 # and there's a sandisk sansa fuze available on amazon but only in pink and 4gb :) 14.34.17 # <_bilgus__> get that 14.34.31 # <_bilgus__> FuzeV2? 14.34.51 # <_bilgus__> V2 has sd slot IIRC the V1 does not 14.35.16 # no, v1 and v2 both had a sd slot 14.35.40 # <_bilgus__> BEAUTIFUL screen the rotary encoder button AWESOME decent battery life GREAT sound quality 14.35.57 # the fuzes are nice, but they are not terribly robust physically 14.36.18 # <_bilgus__> just picked one up for $40 locally several days ago a bit dissapointed I didnt get one earlier 14.37.02 # <_bilgus__> the wires inside are ratehr hard to keep intact but I haven't heard much about them being fragile 14.37.30 # <_bilgus__> but seen plenty of people mess up the rotary encoder doing battery swaps 14.37.32 # maybe it's life inside a car in florida. :) 14.37.46 # battery swells, case comes apart. 14.37.55 # <_bilgus__> ah yes my first clip spent 6 years in the car 14.37.59 # <_bilgus__> clip+ 14.38.13 # <_bilgus__> bad sd slot did it in 14.39.07 # <_bilgus__> I feel like thats not really a knock against the FUZE though just liion in general 14.39.45 # yeah, but they are nearly impossible to reassemble with destroying the ribbon cable for the rotary encoder 14.39.59 Quit vmx (Quit: Leaving) 14.40.08 # <_bilgus__> yes that has surely been established 14.40.20 # as the... four? five? that I have in pieces can attest. 14.40.54 # <_bilgus__> I feel the same way about resoldering a sd slot in the clip+ 14.41.12 # had to resolder the headphone jack on my first clip+ 14.41.31 # <_bilgus__> yeah hear that a lot but I havn't had an issue yet 14.41.50 # <_bilgus__> I plug unplug st least 2x a day 14.42.09 # <_bilgus__> its probably more of a stress thing I imagine 14.42.11 # but the other weakness of the sansas is the onboard flash dying. using the multiboot stuff solves that though 14.42.21 # <_bilgus__> yes big weakness 14.42.56 # <_bilgus__> IDK i'm still pretty in love with the CLIP+ and Zip very nice for working/working out 14.43.25 # I loved the clip+; only thing I think it lacked was a proper line out. :) 14.43.53 # <_bilgus__> though the buttons on the zip are hooked by a ribbon to the outer case and the one I have currently has corroded on of the signal lines 14.44.10 # <_bilgus__> so it lost home/down 14.44.41 # <_bilgus__> but meh I'll throw it into a box till I get another for parts once it finally gets annoying enough to switch 14.45.28 # <_bilgus__> I like the clip+ so much after I bought a news one I put it up taht can be my retirement mp3 player :p 14.46.03 # <_bilgus__> I really don't like the Clip zip as much.. 14.47.47 # <_bilgus__> the other thing is I really dislike apple as a company so I've steered clear of their products but they seem perfectly robust although a bit big 14.50.42 # yeah 14.50.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.02 Join johnb5 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3af3aa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.03.29 # t0mato : I just got me a second xduoo x3 on *bay-kleinanzeigen for 40 Euro, and have ordered the spare battery. 15.05.26 # Also I have come to appreaciate the Sansa E200s, the screen is nice, overall they are rather robust and you can replace the battery. A little heavy maybe for the size of it due to the metal back. 15.06.17 # You can still find a lot of them used. 15.21.59 # speachy : On the X3, the 'Hide internal drive' just toggles which of the two card slots shows up on the PC. Can we have both exposed over USB at the same time? 15.22.37 # johnb5: should be possible. i've seen 2x drives exposed before. 15.22.39 # I thought they both showed up. 15.23.05 # "internal drive" ie really just the "boot drive" in this case. 15.23.22 # hmm, let me check again. 15.23.28 # fwiw did someone test the surfans f20? 15.24.07 # make sure it's a relatively recent snapshot; within the last couple of weeks 15.27.01 # 4fa945d810-200917: if hide == no, only card1 shows up on my Windows laptop 15.27.42 # works for me 15.28.21 # if yes, the card 2. Let me check with the latest build. 15.29.19 Quit braewoods (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 15.29.25 # I see I'm using 2ffe87902d-200920 15.30.32 # SD1 was the boot drive, SD2 was a random SD card I had lying around for a Xilinx dev board. Linux host 15.31.24 # 20200917 should be no diffrerent. 15.31.27 # might be a Windows thing? 15.32.00 # confirm, same behaviour with the latest build. 15.33.13 # all the sansas behave properly. 15.33.53 # card1 is a sandisk 16GB, card2 128GB, also Sandisk 15.37.40 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 15.38.32 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 15.40.44 Quit St3ak (Client Quit) 15.40.57 # ok just ordered 2 players, 2 microsdx cards, and one pair of cx-300ii. couldn't resist. 15.41.42 # let's see how this goes 15.42.12 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 15.46.36 # with "same behavvior" I mean what I described before, i.e. still the same. 15.47.22 # In a day or two, I should have my second x3. Let's see how this one behaves. 16.10.42 Quit johnb5 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 16.12.01 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.12.40 # <_bilgus__> Linux, latest head I can confirm mine shows both cards as well 16.30.34 # IIRC both cards always worked (modulo bugs in the SD, IRQ, USB, clock tree, threading, and/or cpu cache management code..0 16.30.40 # (and/or solar flares) 16.33.53 # I mean, it's certianly possible that there's an issue with dual cards with a Win10 host 16.34.41 # but the only Win10 system I have access to is locked down to the point where mass storage devices are disallowed. 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stability and lots of storage? 20.39.04 # braewoods: yeah and good battery lifetime 20.39.20 # braewoods: and an EQ, a nice display, ... 20.39.39 # EQ? a hardware thing? or just software? 20.39.50 # EQ is probably builtin to rockbox if available 20.40.24 # most of the ipods afaik have very basic displays 20.40.33 # monochrome or greyscale typically 20.40.44 # i'm assuming you want color 20.41.21 # if you were going to rebuild an older thing you'd probably want a HDD unit since those often came with really good hardware stuff 20.41.41 # those can be upgraded to larger storage capacities 20.41.53 # highest is 256GB in general though 20.42.01 # it may be less with some models 20.42.26 # i can't tell you really though... it partly depends on whether LBA48 is supported or not 20.43.18 # ah. 20.43.36 # PATA... first used 22-bit allowing a maximum of 2GB drives 20.43.51 # most common in these is 28-bit allowing up to 128G 20.44.12 # LBA48 can allow for more up to 2TB (disk label limitation) 20.44.28 # though in practice largest i've seen is 256GB for rockbox mods 20.44.40 # but given how densely you can store music nowadays... 20.44.43 # how much does one need? 20.46.43 # I've seen entire CDs condensed to 60 MBs if Opus is used 20.47.09 # 02:40:25 [braewoods] most of the ipods afaik have very basic displays 20.47.32 # well literally all of the ipods have no reasonable software EQ, neither parametric or graphical 20.47.36 # and that's really bad 20.47.45 # (with the original firmware, that is) 20.47.51 # you basically just get a bunch of presets 20.47.57 # genevino: indeed. the iriver H10 and H3xx series both have 65K color screens 20.48.03 # that's pretty good for the era. 20.48.20 # braewoods: well i just ordered a rocker, let's see how that goes 20.48.27 # are you off your rocker? 20.48.29 # lol 20.48.34 # kek 20.50.00 # genevino: anyway, good luck I guess? i have my reservations about sd cards, mainly how slow they tend to be. 20.50.13 # braewoods: oh and i got one of these things here, just for fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBhngQjvvrw 20.50.18 # just don't overdo the writes but i suspect for this purpose it won't be a problem 20.51.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.52.05 # all cheap sd cards are using flash tech that has low write endurance so not a good choice if you're doing a lot but i suspect rockbox won't be writing that often 20.52.35 # well if it breaks, it breaks :) 20.53.26 # but let's see 20.58.17 Quit Huntereb (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.15.18 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 21.16.21 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 21.49.04 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 21.49.57 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 21.51.25 Quit St3ak (Remote host closed the connection) 21.52.08 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 21.55.11 Quit St3ak (Client Quit) 21.55.48 # surprising. 21.55.58 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 21.56.00 # HDD6330 has more RAM than most targets. 21.56.10 # 64MB 21.56.29 Quit St3ak (Client Quit) 21.57.12 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 21.57.28 Join mendelmunkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb138.dyn.optonline.net) 21.59.47 Quit mendel_munkis_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.59.53 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 22.11.35 Quit St3ak (Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net) 22.12.33 Join St3ak [0] (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 22.43.44 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.51.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.11 Join mendel_munkis_ [0] (~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb138.dyn.optonline.net) 23.08.20 Quit mendelmunkis (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.18.44 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 23.39.24 Join mendelmunkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb138.dyn.optonline.net) 23.41.00 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 23.42.18 Quit mendel_munkis_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.48.27 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.49.22 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.52.44 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@98.220.238.152) 23.52.44 Quit tchan (Changing host) 23.52.44 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan)