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10.58.06 #       <genevino> ok so i just received my agptek rocker - i can't seem to find out how to put rockbox on it - simply copying the .rockbox folder from the rockbox-agptekrocker.zip to the root of the sd card and powering on the device had no effect so i reckon i have to flash a new bootloader to it, but rockbox utility doesn't even offer any agptek device. any help?
11.02.18 #       <speachy> the wiki page includes manual instructions, but you'll need a post-1.4.1 rbutil build.  there's a sticky in the forum.
11.08.24 #       <genevino> speachy: what's a sticky?
11.08.57 #       <speachy> https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53588.0.html
11.13.16 #       <genevino> speachy: ok the windows version keeps telling me that i have to select a mount point.
11.13.32 #       <speachy> well, when you plug it in, it'll get a drive letter..
11.13.46 #       <genevino> well the menu to select the drive is empty...
11.18.23 #       <genevino> anything else i could try?
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11.27.22 #       <genevino> and i should probably answer that post on the forum, or?
11.34.12 #       <speachy> can't really help you there; I've only used Rbutil on linux.
11.34.50 #       <genevino> speachy: well i have a linux box, too, but i would probably have to compile the version you linked manually if i wanted to try it under linux.
11.34.53 #       <speachy> oh, one thing came to mind, the SD card is inserted?  Can you browse to the Rocker under the Windows Explorer
11.35.00 #       <genevino> yes
11.35.06 #       <genevino> and yes :)
11.35.13 #       <genevino> anyways i could boot into linux and try
11.44.53 #       <genevino> compiling, let's see
11.45.53 #       <speachy> BTW you'll need to download the latest Rocker firmware update manually.
11.49.00 #       <genevino> speachy: this has exactly the same problem - i can't select a device from the dropdown menu because it's completely empty
11.49.33 #       <speachy> I think we'll ahve to punt to bluebrother about that.  I got nothing.
11.50.17 #       <genevino> when started as root i see a /boot/efi entry in the menu, but that's obviously not what i should flash.
11.50.47 #       <speachy> so your system's not creating a mount point automatically for it?
11.51.02 #       <genevino> autodetection fails, too.
11.51.28 #       <genevino> i have the thing mounted :)
11.51.38 #       <blbro[m]> You need two things: the filesystem needs to be mounted and FAT
11.52.29 #       <genevino> i can browse the sd card from a graphical filemanager (thunar) just fine
11.52.38 #       <blbro[m]> You can go to Help / Troubleshooting / System Info to see the drives on your machine. Does it appear in that list?
11.53.25 #       <genevino> i don't have help / troubleshooting.
11.53.39 #       <blbro[m]> And what filesystem type does it show?
11.53.44 #       <blbro[m]> In Rockbox Utility?
11.54.28 #       <genevino> i'm not even getting that far, i can't select a device.
11.54.52 #       <genevino> IF i start it as root, there is a /boot/efi entry in the menu i can select
11.54.53 #       <blbro[m]> Doesn't matter. Close the configure dialog, look in the menu.
11.56.01 #       <blbro[m]> Sounds like it's filtered out because of the filesystem type.
11.56.19 #       <blbro[m]> System Info might be directly below Help. Iirc I moved that some time ago.
11.57.31 #       <genevino> blbro[m]: https://i.imgur.com/sKbPMAj.png
11.58.09 #       <blbro[m]> Yep, that's the one
11.58.36 #       <genevino> VID: c502 PID: 0029, AGPTEK AGPTEK ROCKER
11.58.48 #       <genevino> that's being shown under "attached usb devices"
11.59.25 #       <blbro[m]> So it should be able to detect the player. Not necessarily the mountpoint.
11.59.57 #       <blbro[m]> Does autodetect select the correct player from the list?
12.00.43 #       <genevino> Could not detect a device.
12.00.43 #       <genevino> Select your device and Mountpoint manually.
12.04.06 #       <blbro[m]> Ok. In System Info in the filesystem table you should see all mounted devices. Is that in there?
12.06.12 #       <blbro[m]> Hmm. Player detection should work, the usb vid / pid is correct.
12.06.32 #       <blbro[m]> What version of Rockbox Utility are you using?
12.07.51 #       <genevino> /mnt/bloeb2  214.51 GiB  238.27 GiB  262144
12.08.16 #       <genevino> the version i just compiled from the thing you linked on google drive
12.08.23 #       <genevino> version 1.4.1 (7c3b9a4049)
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12.11.45 #       <blbro[m]> Hmm, that should be fine.
12.12.20 #       <blbro[m]> And /mnt/bloeb2 is the player?
12.12.38 #       <blbro[m]> Hmm, I thought that would display the filesystem type.
12.15.24 #       <speachy> ... was that 7c5ba4049?
12.15.50 #       <speachy> (7c_5_ not 7c_3_)
12.16.56 #       <blbro[m]> Yeah. Figured that after searching a bit :)
12.17.49 #       <blbro[m]> Please go to configure, try autodetect, close configure, then go to Help / System Trace and pastebin the contents of that window.
12.19.31 #       <blbro[m]> It will try to find compatible mountpoint. You can look through it for lines saying "Ignored: / is /dev/sda5 type ext4" (or similar). Is your player among those lines?
12.21.32 #       <blbro[m]> Btw, pressing Refresh in the config dialog is sufficient.
12.22.37 #       <blbro[m]> Your player should show up in the log with something like "Added: /media/ipod is /dev/sdb2 type vfat"
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12.32.19 #       <genevino> blbro[m]: well the thing about the filesystem could actually well be, since this gets mounted using fuse and says something about exfat.
12.32.34 #       <genevino> blbro[m]: so do you think i could try to re-format the sd card with fvat?
12.32.45 #       <genevino> blbro[m]: or "should" i try that?
12.32.56 #       <speachy> yes, you'll need vfat.
12.34.46 #       <blbro[m]> Rockbox does not support exfat. Rockbox Utility only shows compatible mountpoints, so exfat doesn't show up. That's intentional (especially on Linux the list could be very long otherwise)
12.35.36 #       <blbro[m]> So not should or could, you have to :)
12.35.58 #       <genevino> aha, gotcha. :)
12.36.17 #       <genevino> just used mkfs.vfat and fatlabel now, let's see ;)
12.39.03 #       <genevino> aaaaaaaha, and i'm getting further, tada!   "Bootloader installation requires you to provide the correct verrsion of the original firmware file."
12.40.09 #       <genevino> ok so what do i need here?
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12.41.03 #       <genevino> ah!
12.41.26 #       <genevino> "Could not find firmware in archive, Error reading firmware file"
12.41.27 #       <genevino> hmm
12.42.06 #       <speachy> I _think_ it's this one:  http://images.agptek.us/Download/AGPTEK_ROCKER(20171101).rar
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12.42.43 #       <speachy> you'll need to extract the .upt file out of that archive.
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12.45.41 #       <genevino> wow that did it
12.45.57 #       <genevino> ok so how to boot into rockbox now? when switching the thing on i get no bootloader prompting.
12.46.18 #       <speachy> https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker
12.46.51 #       <speachy> the instructions obviously need more detail, but:  "go into the settings menu and select firmware update."
12.51.06 #       <genevino> ah that did something, but now i'm stuck at "Insert TF Pls" even though the sd card is in
12.58.18 #       <speachy> huh, that's odd.
13.06.34 #       <genevino> hm. :(
13.07.02 #       <speachy> I'd check to see if the card is sane still.  reformat it if necessary.
13.10.42 #       <genevino> would you recommend making the whole device one file system or partitioning it before i do?
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13.13.28 #       <speachy> partitioning it properly.  I don't know offhand how the stock firmware handles full-disk filesystems.
13.13.50 #       <genevino> ok
13.13.55 #       <speachy> wait, you don't get anything in the stock fw?  just the insert card prompt?
13.14.02 #       <genevino> yup
13.15.14 #       <speachy> ... that sounds like something went wrong with the FW flash.
13.15.43 #       <speachy> ... reformat, put the update.upt file on the SD card, see if it recovers.
13.16.40 #       <speachy> just booted mine up; it worked just fine (and it's what I used to get the rbutil stuff going; so what it's running was loaded into it via rbutil)
13.18.27 #       <speachy> without a card inserted, I mean
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15.40.41 #       <genevino> wow i'm actually making progress
15.40.52 #       <genevino> but heck the docs could be better yes
15.43.23 #       <genevino> anyways, i now got rockbox running on my agptek rocker it seems
15.43.42 #       <speachy> oh good.  what went wrong?
15.43.48 #       <genevino> i have no idea
15.43.57 #       <genevino> but i managed to get it to work it seems
15.44.43 #       <braewoods> i've seen devices that needed power cycles to boot properly.
15.44.58 #       <braewoods> one notebook i had would only successfully boot from USB on first boot. it failed on reboots.
15.45.03 #       <braewoods> so you had to power off properly.
15.45.06 #       <braewoods> first
15.45.34 #       <braewoods> on reboots they just wouldn't be detected or somethig
15.45.46 #       <braewoods> so you had to shutdown first
15.48.11 #       <genevino> it also seems like it does SOMETIMES drop me in the bootloader, but i can't determine when so
15.50.25 #       <genevino> oh it plays music
15.54.24 #       <braewoods> genevino: lol... why is that a surprise?
15.55.45 #       <genevino> oh, trying to play doom hangs it up :)
15.55.59 #       <genevino> braewoods: after 2 hours of tinkering that IS a surprise
15.59.45 #       <genevino> braewoods: and a welcome one, too :D
16.02.35 #       <genevino> wow it's like suddenly the whole device is usable
16.15.32 #       <genevino> ok looks like the cable i had wasn't exactly reliable, replaced it and it seems better
16.15.42 #       <speachy> that would definitely cause issues.
16.16.11 #       <genevino> well the rocker device with rockbox is fantastic
16.16.11 #       <speachy> in the case of the rocker, we're running as a simple application on top of the stock firmware's OS image.
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16.16.27 #       <genevino> impressive
16.16.39 #       <speachy> and we have zero ability to fix quirks with the low-level platform.  :/
16.16.44 #       <genevino> :(
16.17.03 #       <speachy> It's the unfortunate norm.
16.17.22 #       <genevino> what i would actually love to use with rockbox: my surfang f20
16.17.28 #       <genevino> that would be quite awesome
16.17.43 #       <speachy> surfans/irulu f20?
16.18.04 #       <genevino> and considering the firmware update files are simple iso9660 iso files, i could well think they're somewhat hackable. ah yes, surfans, not surfang.
16.18.44 #       <speachy> it's built on the same underlying software platform as the rocker, so it won't be difficult to port.
16.18.53 #       <speachy> just hardware and time..
16.21.19 #       <genevino> speachy: well i'd be interested in learning a bit more about this, i guess my understanding is still a bit n00bish
16.21.40 #       <genevino> speachy: aside from that, are you planning to buy one?
16.24.24 #       <speachy> I guess I could use some of the RB slush fund to buy one.
16.24.47 #       <genevino> do you have a paypal i could donate some bucks to?
16.24.56 #       <speachy> it's on the main rockbox page
16.26.29 #       <speachy> also the hifiwalker h2 looks to be the same hardware with a slightly different case.
16.26.58 #       <genevino> Thanks for donating 10,00 USD to
16.26.59 #       <genevino> slp@peachyphotos.com
16.26.59 #       <genevino> Transaction ID: 6JK5449431684961T
16.27.06 #       <genevino> it's not much, but hey
16.28.03 #       <speachy> every bit helps, thank you.
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16.34.31 #       <genevino> speachy: the h2 *does* seem like exactly the same device but a bit more beautiful
16.34.46 #       <speachy> looks more pocket-friendly.
16.34.57 #       <genevino> yea the f20 is edgy
16.35.02 #       <speachy> does the f20 have a glass back?
16.35.20 #       <genevino> no. a lot of product descriptions say so, but it's indeed just cheap plastic.
16.35.39 #       <genevino> that's definitely not glass. :)
16.35.41 #       <speachy> that's a good thing.  the h2 looks like glass, which is less durable
16.36.24 #       <genevino> i can't for the life of me think that this could be glass.
16.36.40 #       <speachy> (if not glass, then _very_ shiny plastic)
16.36.51 #       <genevino> there's one benefit i see on the surfans tho: usb-c.
16.37.05 #       <speachy> the rocker has a glass back.  or in my case, a multi-piece glass back.
16.37.07 #       <genevino> yes that *IS* very shiny plastic, on the rocker, toot, btw.
16.37.28 #       <genevino> i doubt that is glass on the rocker.
16.37.54 #       <genevino> are you sure that's not just a cheap plastic cover? :)
16.37.58 #       <speachy> it's glass.
16.38.04 #       <genevino> ok :)
16.38.17 #       <speachy> as I said, I know because I broke mine by sitting on it.
16.38.32 #       <genevino> ah yeah you mentioned this the other day.
16.41.42 #       <speachy> yeah, the h2 and f20 are the same hardware.
16.48.59 #       <speachy> both are variations of the Aigo Eros Q.
16.49.57 #       <genevino> speachy: both the eros and the h2 look better than the one i have actually :)
16.49.58 #       <speachy> the H2 is an eros Q, the F20 is an eros K
16.50.12 #       <genevino> interesting
16.50.13 #       <speachy> there's a Q and Qii
16.50.14 #       <genevino> yea
16.50.28 #       <genevino> yea the eros k looks exactly like mine
16.50.49 #       <genevino> and yea that's the thing i would love to run rockbox on :)
16.51.19 #       <genevino> (that being said, the rocker is perfectly fine already)
16.51.27 #       <speachy> the qii looks like it uses a different sw architecture.
16.51.49 #       <genevino> yup
16.52.01 #       <speachy> might be the same hardare though.
16.52.15 #       <genevino> looks so
16.52.23 #       <speachy> it's the same case at least.
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17.55.25 #       <genevino> ok i have no idea if there even is a way to let the next/prev keys honour the shuffle mode
17.55.41 #       <genevino> e.g. i just want it to shuffle ALL songs no matter what sub-directory they're in
17.56.23 #       <genevino> i know i can press short-long to skip to the next folder, but in a shuffle mode i'd assume it would just shuffle like, ALL the things, including jumping to other directories
18.19.33 #       <genevino> and twimc:
18.19.35 #       <genevino> DB Error: attempt to write a readonly database (8)
18.19.35 #       <genevino> SQL: UPDATE themes SET downloadcnt=downloadcnt+1 WHERE themeid=:id Array ( [:id] => 2820 )
18.19.44 #       <genevino> when trying to access https://themes.rockbox.org/download.php?themeid=2820
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18.34.42 #       <speachy> ....huh.
18.35.55 #       <speachy> genevino: I can't do anything about that now.
18.36.40 #       <speachy> it should work now.  don't know why it got wedged.  or for how long.
18.36.52 #       <speachy> probably a crawler storm.
18.41.45 #       <speachy> looks like it wedged at 14:55 local time.  so.. jsut shy of 4 hours ago.
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19.22.08 #       <genevino> speachy: whatever you did, it fixed it, yes. :)
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