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04.05.43 #       <braewoods> ok... bootloader flash checks out for new iriver_flash on h120
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05.05.35 #       <braewoods> ... ok done
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06.07.22 #       <braewoods> whoever feels like reviewing, i have finished my revisions to iriver_flash. only thing i plan to do later is add H300 bootloaders once those are ready.
06.07.29 #       <braewoods> https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/rockbox/+/2961
06.07.32 #       <braewoods> err
06.07.34 #       <braewoods> g#2961
06.07.36 #       <fs-bluebot> Gerrit review #2961 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/2961 : iriver_flash: refactor code to be easier to understand by James Buren
06.07.38 #       <braewoods> still getting used to this
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08.45.06 #       <braewoods> speachy: any advice for debugging bootloaders? i tried a test build and it doesn't boot. though it appears to be semi-functional as i was able to trigger emergency boot into the OF.
08.45.24 #       <braewoods> all i get is a white screen
09.01.29 #       <braewoods> hm.
09.02.33 #       <braewoods> ok... restored the previous bootloader via OF
09.10.09 #       <braewoods> well at least crt0.S appears to be working
09.10.23 #       <braewoods> since it was able to boot OF
09.10.36 #       <braewoods> nice little failsafe
09.15.31 #       * braewoods ponders.
09.15.36 #       <braewoods> i wonder if it's the toolchain
09.15.48 #       <braewoods> one way to find out...
09.15.56 #       <braewoods> build another h120 bootloader and see what happens
09.26.28 #       <speachy> for low-level code like that?  jtag and printf()s
09.27.42 #       <braewoods> no access to JTAG i'm afraid...
09.28.33 #       <braewoods> hm.
09.28.41 #       <braewoods> one thing i'll try
09.28.55 #       <braewoods> the H120 bootloader first i guess
09.30.17 #       <braewoods> i guess i'll need to inspect the ASM and see what I find.
09.30.30 #       <braewoods> but later
09.30.47 #       <braewoods> speachy: did you review my iriver_flash commit?
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09.31.49 #       <speachy> only at the most cursory level.
09.32.06 #       <speachy> ($dayjob demands most of my attention)
09.34.01 #       <braewoods> speachy: ok. i'll wait some more.
09.45.18 #       <braewoods> most interesting.
09.45.27 #       <braewoods> H120 works perfectly with latest master
09.45.43 #       <braewoods> so... something is up.
09.45.45 #       <braewoods> but not sure what
09.48.11 #       <braewoods> at least that gives me a giant lead
09.48.27 #       <braewoods> probably means the toolchain is not at fault for coldfire as it produces a viable bootloader for H120
09.49.08 #       <braewoods> it was working at one time so i'm going to dig through the common code and see what i can find
09.49.23 #       <braewoods> but at least it seems the LCD and toolchain updates are unlikely candidates
09.50.26 #       <speachy> so the one that fails is the H3xx?
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09.51.56 #       <mendel_munkis> is there any reason I'm missing that the quickscreen applies global settings?
09.53.18 #       <braewoods> speachy: indeed.
09.53.39 #       <braewoods> speachy: but it appears crt0 is functional as i was able to purposefully trip the emergency boot to OF
09.53.51 #       <braewoods> it's possible the code has been non-functional for awhile
09.54.06 #       <braewoods> i think something in the H100 code may give some ideas
09.54.12 #       <braewoods> since it still works
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10.10.26 #       <braewoods> hm.
10.22.06 #       <_bilgus_> braewoods, first glance it looks very nice but so many changes I'm not sure i'll catch any real bugs without going thru several times
10.22.22 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: i've done so myself already.
10.22.30 #       <braewoods> it works perfectly for H120 that i can tell
10.22.43 #       <braewoods> i found one small bug i already fixed though
10.22.59 #       <_bilgus_> yeah I dea is we get blind when reviewing our own stuff :p
10.23.39 #       <braewoods> i'm trying to figure out why the H300 bootloader is a no-go
10.23.42 #       <braewoods> though
10.23.46 #       <braewoods> when built from master
10.23.52 #       <braewoods> it flashes correctly that i can tell
10.24.00 #       <braewoods> so something else is going on
10.24.27 #       <braewoods> now that is odd
10.24.54 #       <braewoods> is this normal?
10.24.56 #       <braewoods> https://dpaste.com/DW87PDDL5
10.25.05 #       <braewoods>   3f3124:       51fa            Address 0x00000000003f3126 is out of bounds.
10.25.07 #       <braewoods> Address 0x00000000003f3126 is out of bounds.
10.25.15 #       <braewoods> output from objdump -d
10.25.48 #       <braewoods> i'll see what i get when building h120
10.26.34 #       <braewoods> apparently it also occurs in the H120 bootloader elf
10.26.35 #       <braewoods> hm.
10.26.37 #       <braewoods> guess it is
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10.41.13 #       <braewoods> trying to disassemble this is tedious
10.41.43 #       <braewoods> i wonder. can i make objdump output intermediates as hexadecimal?
10.41.55 #       <braewoods> as it stands it is interpreting them as signed base 10 integers
10.42.12 #       <braewoods> i mean, output immediate values
10.42.34 #       <braewoods> it would help if i could do that so i wouldn't have to scratch my head when looking at some of these lines
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11.05.55 #       <braewoods> i guess question 1 is how do I signal progression...
11.06.02 #       <braewoods> hm
11.06.11 #       <braewoods> from the real HW
11.06.13 #       <braewoods> no less...
11.06.33 #       <braewoods> if LCD isn't giving output...
11.06.44 #       <braewoods> my only real fallback is shut down or so
11.13.12 #       <braewoods> speachy: here's a random idea i had. is it possible the bootloader is just slow to startup?
11.13.27 #       <braewoods> though i can't see why that would be the case
11.13.39 #       <speachy> possible, but highly unlikely.
11.14.16 #       <braewoods> i do know it is at least making it to line 181 of crt0.S
11.14.42 #       <braewoods> and also setting the cookie
11.14.58 #       <braewoods> probably makes it all the way through there
11.16.53 #       <_bilgus_> well its already pushed but a few comments there, dereference of ** and releasing the audio buffer being the main things to look at
11.17.02 #       <_bilgus_> @braewoods,
11.17.32 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: dereference of **?
11.18.05 #       <_bilgus_> 315
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11.18.56 #       <_bilgus_> if fi == NULL then just below you deref &fi which is legal
11.19.27 #       <_bilgus_> NULL is a valid memory address as long as thats your intention..
11.19.48 #       <braewoods> it is. it signals that it hasn't been set yet. the called subroutine is guaranteed to set it to something valid
11.20.10 #       <braewoods> it's a small optimization
11.20.20 #       <braewoods> it only calls the info flash commands once per program run now
11.20.23 #       <braewoods> the old one did it twice
11.20.39 #       <braewoods> so it effectively is caching the result on the second use
11.21.00 #       <_bilgus_> prefectly valid as long as you are prepared for it :)
11.21.23 #       <braewoods> as for your question about why i removed the comments about the individual bytes...
11.21.43 #       <braewoods> they didn't seem meaningful. the bytes have no symbolic meaning in the datasheet that i can tell.
11.22.13 #       <_bilgus_> ok so superfluous then and therefore worse than no comment
11.22.28 #       <braewoods> https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/SST_39VF160_Datasheet.pdf
11.22.32 #       <braewoods> look at page...
11.22.48 #       <braewoods> 6
11.23.07 #       <braewoods> the command sequence is just a series of writes to specific addresses
11.23.12 #       <braewoods> special to the ROM in some way
11.23.24 #       <braewoods> but why they were chosen isn't known to me
11.23.39 #       <braewoods> so i couldn't see a good way to describe them
11.24.13 #       <_bilgus_> yeah and just differenct sequences
11.24.14 #       <braewoods> i guess it's the ROM equivalent to port knocking
11.24.28 #       <_bilgus_> agreed
11.26.26 #       <braewoods> i'm just stumped why the new bootloader for H300 failed to even print to the LCD
11.26.33 #       <braewoods> hm
11.26.42 #       <_bilgus_> last one the audiobuffer after failure if you want to be able to try again it needs to be released..
11.27.08 #       <braewoods> indeed. but it's expected they'll just run it again.
11.27.19 #       <braewoods> so it wouldn't matter given how it is setup
11.27.32 #       <_bilgus_> its cleaned on plugin exit so not a big deal
11.28.29 #       <_bilgus_> if you can't get it to display you might try a different tact like flipping the backlight on/off
11.28.59 #       <_bilgus_> i've used that to signal when I couldn't get output
11.29.27 #       <braewoods> how do i know it isn't hung or something?
11.29.46 #       <_bilgus_> you make it loop flip backlight
11.30.12 #       <_bilgus_> builtin did something similar with the ipod piezo
11.30.17 #       <braewoods> i see.
11.30.26 #       <braewoods> with the H300 though
11.30.35 #       <braewoods> check iriver_h300.c
11.30.41 #       <_bilgus_> thats why I said the backlight
11.30.47 #       <braewoods> any idea where i might put it?
11.31.22 #       <braewoods> I know at least part of crt0.S, the asm for the first entry point of the bootloader works
11.36.35 #       <_bilgus_> line 187 has the bl init
11.37.24 #       <_bilgus_> does the backlight turn on in your current bootloader?
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11.42.49 #       <_bilgus_> for(int i = 0;i<3;i++){ backlight_hw_off(); for(int j = 0xFFFFFFF;j > 0;j--); backlight_hw_on(); for(int j = 0xFFFFFFF;j > 0;j--);}
11.42.54 #       <_bilgus_> something like that
11.43.13 #       <_bilgus_> then you can increase I to signal where it is
11.57.22 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: yes. white screen or so.
11.58.01 #       <_bilgus_> so that will work just place a few so you can narrow down where it sticks
11.58.35 #       <_bilgus_> not sure on the delay hopefully its enough to see the flashes
11.59.00 #       <_bilgus_> stay away from sleep though
11.59.39 #       <__builtin> you can also have it flash a binary pattern if you need an address or something
12.00.25 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: should i disable optimizations while doing this?
12.00.36 #       <braewoods> i've known those to fuck up low level code before
12.00.41 #       <__builtin> though it's not so easy with a binary backlight
12.01.42 #       <_bilgus_> I'd have already disabled them lol
12.02.30 #       <_bilgus_> at this point though doesn't matter we are just trying to narrow down the issue
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12.07.14 #       <braewoods> ok. i think i will also make it do stuff with the remote i have
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12.10.34 #       <braewoods> thank you unzip
12.10.37 #       <braewoods> :P
12.19.44 #       <braewoods> huh.
12.19.53 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: with that code... it stayed off all the time.
12.19.58 #       <braewoods> dark screen.
12.20.00 #       <braewoods> weird.
12.20.07 #       <braewoods> hm
12.20.43 #       <braewoods> i think i see why
12.22.35 #       <braewoods> let's modify this so it starts on
12.50.23 #       <braewoods> going back to regular code for now
12.50.29 #       <braewoods> let's do some more investigating
12.55.48 #       <braewoods> bizarre
12.55.53 #       <braewoods> no reaction from the LCD
12.55.55 #       <braewoods> err
12.55.57 #       <braewoods> remote
12.59.47 #       <_bilgus_> if you've tried right at the point of init and still no result probably means you are getting stuck earlier
13.00.44 #       <braewoods> i'm not even sure the main function is executing
13.00.51 #       <braewoods> hm
13.01.03 #       <braewoods> i wonder if there's a GPIO i can use temporarily...
13.01.35 #       <_bilgus_> yeah heartbeat
13.01.56 #       <braewoods> heartbeat?
13.02.09 #       <_bilgus_> signs of life
13.05.38 #       <braewoods> there's an idea.
13.05.52 #       <braewoods> i could do low level button reads
13.06.18 #       <braewoods> turn off once power is released or something
13.06.37 #       <braewoods> i have a way to rescue as it stadns
13.15.09 #       <_bilgus_> some way to narrow down the area before we start looking at assembly
13.16.18 #       <braewoods> i already have to a degree
13.16.24 #       <_bilgus_> compiler explorer is very handy for checking btw
13.16.27 #       <braewoods> question is, how far does it get and how can I tell?
13.16.53 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: all i know is it's at least able to execute the emergency cookie code to launch the OF
13.17.06 #       <braewoods> so far anyway
13.17.28 #       <braewoods> i can't tamper with that lest i risk destroying my recovery
13.17.30 #       <_bilgus_> well you have something that you can signal then start moving that around
13.17.39 #       <_bilgus_> oh
13.17.45 #       <braewoods> yes, exactly...
13.17.56 #       <braewoods> the OF booting is how i've recovered from unable to boot rockbox
13.18.11 #       <braewoods> i reflash the old bootloader
13.18.42 #       <braewoods> so i'm trying to find another option
13.19.10 #       <braewoods> i know the LCD printing doesn't appear to be reachable
13.19.17 #       <braewoods> it does work when i boot the regular firmware
13.19.23 #       <_bilgus_> so move your power off code a bit deeper till it stops powering off
13.19.24 #       <braewoods> so i would hazard it doesn't even reach it
13.19.58 #       <braewoods> quick question though
13.20.02 #       <braewoods> what does printf do in the bootloaders?
13.20.09 #       <braewoods> is it a fancy wrapper to lcd_printf?
13.20.12 #       <braewoods> or putsf
13.20.14 #       <braewoods> or w/e
13.21.00 #       <_bilgus_> uh I think it prints to a serial port
13.21.22 #       <_bilgus_> unless there is a macro somewhere specific to that device
13.21.34 #       <braewoods> printf for the H120 bootloader prints to the LCD
13.22.02 #       <braewoods> i tested a master build of it to see and it actually works
13.22.06 #       <braewoods> the H300 one isn't for some reason
13.22.13 #       <_bilgus_> then it has something specific to it
13.22.36 #       <braewoods> but hm
13.22.41 #       <_bilgus_> in all the other bootloaders they rely on whats in the lcd driver
13.25.11 #       <_bilgus_> its in common.c int printf(const char *format, ...)
13.25.41 #       <_bilgus_> -> lcd_puts(0, line++, ptr);
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13.33.13 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: well, disabling optimizations is out of the question
13.33.18 #       <braewoods> the bootloader ends up too big :>
13.33.59 #       <_bilgus_> if you are that close then you might look at the bin sizes
13.34.45 #       <_bilgus_> might be an alignment issue or even just not enough stack left for what you are trying to do
13.36.49 #       <_bilgus_> also looking at the devices that do use that printf redirect the ones where space counts do it directly so the printf can be stripped
13.37.58 #       <_bilgus_> unused switches although I recently changed that back to the old one so probably less of an issue
13.39.48 #       <_bilgus_> thats another thought that 'new' printf is the original code (before the printf size explosion) optimized might try trading it out for the OG printf code just in case
13.40.07 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: how would I know the stack size?
13.40.16 #       <_bilgus_> the map file
13.41.32 #       <_bilgus_> it'll have a listing like .stack  or *(.stack)
13.42.12 #       <braewoods> 0x2000 is the size it appears
13.42.26 #       <braewoods> 8K
13.42.36 #       <_bilgus_> thats set up by your crt0 file so look at the address it has it placed
13.43.04 #       <_bilgus_> should be aligned to 0x4 or 0x8 and take note of the address vs where you load the file
13.46.25 #       <braewoods> ... does this stack count up or down?
13.46.52 #       <braewoods> oh i see
13.47.05 #       <braewoods> it's writing 0xdeadbeef to the whole stack region
13.47.07 #       <_bilgus_> no clue probably down but not familar with the processor
13.47.29 #       <_bilgus_> that was my next suggestion.. check if you blew the stack
13.47.55 #       <_bilgus_> only problem is how you'd signal that
13.53.26 #       <_bilgus_> https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/boot.lds#L54
13.54.05 #       <braewoods> ?
13.55.16 #       <_bilgus_> also this.. https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/firmware/target/coldfire/crt0.S#L197
13.56.57 #       <_bilgus_> first one verify thats the case in the map file
13.57.21 #       <_bilgus_> it lays out where it places them make sure it jives with the map
13.57.43 #       <_bilgus_> second one might mess up some assumptions about the addresses
13.58.20 #       <braewoods> yet that's active on both H120 and H320 because they both have 32MB of RAM
13.59.11 #       <braewoods> so i dunno
13.59.55 #       <_bilgus_> a little further down is where it loads the image (if found)
14.01.00 #       <_bilgus_> are you sure you get past that because id start looking very closely there if not
14.01.28 #       <braewoods> all i know is it can reach the cookie code
14.01.30 #       <braewoods> that's it
14.01.48 #       <braewoods> how i would detect it from the crt0.S is beyond me...
14.02.46 #       <braewoods> anyway i'll see what i can dig up
14.03.02 #       <_bilgus_> i can jump in a bit more this evening
14.03.22 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: i just need to build a functional BL before I can expand on it
14.03.45 #       <braewoods> makes me want to try something... build from 3.15 source or so
14.03.48 #       <_bilgus_> oh this is from head then?
14.03.51 #       <braewoods> yes
14.03.58 #       <_bilgus_> ick
14.03.59 #       <braewoods> i'm building from head
14.04.07 #       <braewoods> the H120 bootloader works when built from current head
14.04.15 #       <braewoods> but the H320
14.04.18 #       <braewoods> no bueno so far
14.04.24 #       <braewoods> excuse me, H300
14.04.29 #       <_bilgus_> yeah this is going to turn into a bisect mess
14.04.52 #       <braewoods> yea.. i have no point of reference.
14.05.04 #       <_bilgus_> only option at this point is to find where it still works so right on
14.05.24 #       <braewoods> i'll try building from 3.15
14.05.27 #       <braewoods> toolchain and all
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14.05.53 #       <braewoods> H120 for whatever reason works fine
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14.06.08 #       <braewoods> i thought H300 would too since it's similar enough
14.07.02 #       <braewoods> there is one major difference between H120 and H300 though that may play a role
14.07.13 #       <braewoods> H300 has twice the ROM space which changes offsets
14.07.17 #       <_bilgus_> clearly not though or there is something overlooked (somewhere)
14.07.53 #       <braewoods> but yea
14.08.06 #       <braewoods> i think i need to start from 3.15 to see if it was working back then
14.08.17 #       <braewoods> before all the reworking that's been going o
14.08.19 #       <braewoods> on
14.08.34 #       <_bilgus_> I have an old vm from prior to 3.14 too if need be
14.09.01 #       <braewoods> but yea, there's a few reasons i want to modernize the BL for H300
14.09.10 #       <braewoods> but first need to find out how i can get it building on head
14.09.12 #       <braewoods> err
14.09.14 #       <braewoods> working
14.09.16 #       <braewoods> it already builds
14.09.44 #       <_bilgus_> https://www.mediafire.com/file/im5u2t2hbmct4m0/Ubuntu_16.10_Yakkety_%252864bit%2529.7z/file
14.09.47 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: do the bootloaders get built for stable releases?
14.09.52 #       <_bilgus_> no
14.09.55 #       <braewoods> ok..
14.10.05 #       <braewoods> that sucks. it would save some hassle.
14.10.08 #       <braewoods> lol
14.10.10 #       <_bilgus_> usually its a blue moon
14.10.28 #       <_bilgus_> for this reason...
14.10.52 #       <braewoods> first i want to propagate the bug fixes that never made it into a new BL release
14.11.09 #       <braewoods> second i want to add the missing features that never got finished
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14.38.50 #       <braewoods> well here goes. preparing a container for the 3.15
14.39.23 #       <braewoods> since it will require a different toolchain and all
14.40.12 #       <__builtin> yeah, bootloaders get broken a lot without us noticing
14.41.03 #       <__builtin> I think the ipod6g one was broken for a good while because we blanket-disabled IRAM and didn't realize that broke the bootloader
14.42.30 #       <braewoods> it's partially functional
14.42.32 #       <braewoods> but yea
14.45.23 #       <braewoods> just had a weird idea
14.45.46 #       <braewoods> the iriver H120 and H320 both have secondary EEPROMs...
14.45.58 #       <braewoods> maybe i could try programming those
14.46.43 #       <braewoods> oh but then the OF could undo what i've done when i boot it...
14.46.47 #       <braewoods> nevermind
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15.01.30 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: 3.15 no bueno
15.01.33 #       <braewoods> same issue
15.01.47 #       <braewoods> seems unrelated to recent changes
15.02.26 #       <braewoods> kinda makes me wish we could disassemble the working one to see what's different
15.02.40 #       <braewoods> but it's just a BIN file
15.06.50 #       <braewoods> it's looking like the problem is a source level change, not some toolchain one
15.07.00 #       <braewoods> but hm
15.08.54 #       <braewoods> time to try 3.14
15.10.18 #       <braewoods> 2017...
15.10.47 #       <braewoods> but no telling where it broke
15.10.58 #       <braewoods> so i guess gradually go back in time
15.15.12 #       <braewoods> 3.14, same issue
15.15.19 #       * braewoods boggles
15.15.47 #       <braewoods> hm.
15.15.54 #       <braewoods> now there's an idea
15.16.57 #       <braewoods> i'm going to try something weird... i'll try flashing the good bootloader over itself to see if my flash program is somehow responsible though i can't see how it would be.
15.31.56 #       <braewoods> hm.
15.32.00 #       <braewoods> this should be helpful
15.32.15 #       <braewoods> i can compare the raw ASM and see how it differs...
15.32.19 #       <braewoods> that will be of some help
15.32.30 #       <braewoods> the reset vector helps me know where to find the start function
15.32.32 #       <braewoods> but little else
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15.54.58 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: maybe i should start from 3.0 and go forward
15.55.18 #       <braewoods> but how? that's really ancient
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16.02.46 #       <braewoods> well this might be helpful...
16.02.52 #       <braewoods> https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26963.msg176728.html#msg176728
16.03.10 #       <braewoods> and no one bothered to try to fix it evidently
16.03.23 #       <braewoods> so it's been broken a long time
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16.13.31 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: from what i can tell it brokes sometime between 2008 and 2011.
16.13.56 #       <speachy> huh, so it's been busted sine at least early 2011.
16.14.00 #       <braewoods> _bilgus_: any suggestions for how I can build RB from such old source
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16.14.14 #       <braewoods> speachy: yea... the fact that H120 works though tells me it should be fixable
16.14.52 #       <braewoods> question is, what was the change(s) that broke it all?
16.15.06 #       <speachy> it's a lot to git-bisect.
16.15.49 #       <speachy> but worst-case it will require use of a truly ancient toolcahin.
16.16.38 #       <braewoods> speachy: any way i can disassemble an existing .bin bootloader?
16.16.47 #       <braewoods> objdump only works with ELF afaik
16.17.04 #       <braewoods> comparing ASM might give me some ideas for what changed at the ASM level
16.18.36 #       <braewoods> found it
16.22.21 #       <braewoods> hm.
16.22.38 #       <braewoods> i can use this to at least compare crt0.S
16.22.54 #       <braewoods> huh. already found one instruction added in.
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16.34.45 #       <amsomniac> Hello! I've installed Rockbox 3.15 on an iPod 6.5 gen with an iflash mSATA board, and whenever rockbox boots I get "ATA Error -2147483542". It works (up to 127GB) with the Apple firmware, and I get the same error (??) with the original HD installed. I found some threads from 2012 and 2015 about this issue and tried the patched firmware I could find with no luck-- I'm starting to think I'll need to build rockbox myself and setting up for
16.34.45 #       <amsomniac>  that, but I don't know what I need to modify. Any tips or modern branches with 6.5G + mSATA support?
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17.11.28 #       <braewoods> looks like it all started around end of 2009
17.11.37 #       <braewoods> let's see...
17.12.14 #       <braewoods> 3.1 is probably where i should try first
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17.30.28 #       <braewoods> ok. figured something out.
17.30.38 #       <braewoods> i'll make a VM of Debian 5.
17.31.43 #       <braewoods> PITA but i need an environment from that era to be sure i don't introduce new issues
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17.35.40 #       <braewoods> ah the days of sysvinit
17.35.47 #       <braewoods> nostalgia
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17.49.37 #       <braewoods> to think my linux skills would be useful for this of all things
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19.19.13 #       <amsomniac> @braewoods why are you setting up a debian VM? for the transpiler?
19.20.47 #       <speachy> amsomniac: btw, did you see my earlier response?  basically, use a current dev build instead of 3.15 on your ipod.
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21.33.49 #       <_bilgus_> https://www.mediafire.com/file/im5u2t2hbmct4m0/Ubuntu_16.10_Yakkety_%252864bit%2529.7z/file
21.35.00 #       <_bilgus_> braewoods, that should be 2016 ish I might have older but id have to search backups next time i'm at home might be faster to rebuild but possibly not easier
21.38.19 #       <_bilgus_> let me know if you need me to look
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23.12.33 #       <braewoods> good news... bootloader works in v3.1
23.12.45 #       <braewoods> now i just need to go forward and find where it breaks
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23.20.10 #       <braewoods> _bilgus: good news. v3.1 works.
23.22.34 #       <braewoods> about to test v3.2
23.24.10 #       <braewoods> this also confirms iriver_flash is working for H300 BLs at least
23.24.13 #       * braewoods cheers
23.25.43 #       <braewoods> v3.2 BL works
23.27.03 #       <_bilgus> lol that is so long ago
23.27.40 #       <braewoods> _bilgus: indeed but given how i'm out of ideas
23.27.53 #       <braewoods> tracing it through the past seems the best way forward
23.27.57 #       <_bilgus> seems viable to me :)
23.28.05 #       <mendel_munkis> git bisect
23.28.20 #       <braewoods> how does that help me when i don't even know when it broke yet?
23.28.31 #       <mendel_munkis> you know it is broken now.
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23.29.08 #       <braewoods> well i'll look into it once I have the range narrowed
23.29.15 #       <mendel_munkis> git bisect is designed to figure out wen i broke
23.29.42 #       <braewoods> how does that help me when it broke sometime between 2009 and 2017?
23.29.58 #       <braewoods> just leave 3.2 to 3.14 range so far
23.30.20 #       <braewoods> i mean...
23.30.21 #       <mendel_munkis> do you have some clue which files are most likley to be problematic?
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23.30.35 #       <braewoods> vaguely...
23.30.40 #       <_bilgus> what he says is true braewoods
23.30.59 #       <braewoods> but i don't even know what i'd be looking for
23.31.12 #       <braewoods> all i know is the HEAD BL is partially functional or else i'd have a brick on my hands
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23.31.20 #       <braewoods> the cookie rescue system saved my bacon
23.31.35 #       <braewoods> it's been in for ages
23.32.16 #       <braewoods> _bilgus: may seem tacky but i hacked the version string for the BL tests so i know it is booting a new one if it works
23.32.25 #       <_bilgus> bisect is supposed to save you from having to test every version but you do whatever you like :)
23.32.54 #       <braewoods> _bilgus: how does bisect help me if i don't even know where the problem is?
23.33.19 #       <mendel_munkis> it should give you s samller set of versions to check to find the problem
23.33.19 #       <braewoods> to be frank i've never used bisect
23.33.49 #       <_bilgus> yeah that makes it more problematic but just more to look at
23.34.23 #       <_bilgus> I bumble thru it like I do half of git
23.34.23 #       <braewoods> i think i'll take your advice once i have narrowed it down considerably
23.34.47 #       <braewoods> because it could be anything, toolchain changes or so
23.34.53 #       <braewoods> perhaps H120 got fixed but H300 never did
23.34.54 #       <braewoods> i don't know
23.35.10 #       <braewoods> i doubt bisect would help me if the problem was due to toolchain issues
23.35.19 #       <_bilgus> no one tested it so it never got fixed is possible
23.35.33 #       <mendel_munkis> use git bisect start -- path/to/liklylocation; git bisect bad 3.14; git bisect good 3.1;
23.35.49 #       <braewoods> i still think i need to narrow it down some more
23.35.50 #       <mendel_munkis> I thought you confermid it wasn't sorry
23.35.59 #       <braewoods> mendel_munkis: just a working theory at this point
23.36.32 #       <mendel_munkis> I am trying to understand why you would want to narrow it down before bisect when the purpose of bisect is to help narrow it down?
23.36.34 #       <braewoods> it doesn't look like it but i don't want to chase through the source until i have narrowed the scope by real world tests
23.37.08 #       <braewoods> mendel_munkis: well here's what i know so far.
23.37.10 #       <mendel_munkis> bisect gives you likey versionss to test in which the bug started
23.37.30 #       <braewoods> 1), 3.2 is the last known working one that i know of
23.37.40 #       <braewoods> dating back to 3.14 is non-working
23.37.46 #       <braewoods> so roughly a 9 year gap
23.38.25 #       <braewoods> i was going off the anecdotes i found in my research
23.38.49 #       <braewoods> it seems late 2009 is the first known instance of builds that didn't work
23.38.57 #       <braewoods> v3.2 is early 2009
23.39.13 #       <braewoods> hm
23.39.22 #       <braewoods> i guess i'm just inexperienced with bisect but...
23.39.31 #       <mendel_munkis> right so instead of testing every version in between to find out which one was the first with the issue git bisect will chose a likely version for you to test and based on the results of that choose the next most likely one
23.40.25 #       <braewoods> trouble is i don't even know where the issue is. bootloaders are so low level that debugging from head was pretty much a no-go.
23.40.41 #       <braewoods> all i know is it seems the crt0.S is likely not the culprit
23.41.04 #       <braewoods> the code after that is the h300 BL's main function
23.41.38 #       <braewoods> mendel_munkis: suggestiong on how to use it when i don't even know what source file broke it?
23.41.56 #       <braewoods> hm
23.42.02 #       <braewoods> i guess i need to
23.42.05 #       <braewoods> uh
23.42.13 #       <braewoods> figure out what files are used in the build
23.42.18 #       <braewoods> but that's a long ass list
23.42.33 #       <_bilgus> mapfile?
23.42.51 #       <braewoods> that'll probably help.
23.42.59 #       <_bilgus> why not just choose the directory up a level?
23.43.26 #       <braewoods> you mean the root directory?
23.43.31 #       <braewoods> git root?
23.43.32 #       <_bilgus> ./yourpc/rbsrc/bootloaders
23.43.46 #       <braewoods> oh
23.44.00 #       <braewoods> well it's a place to start i guess
23.44.11 #       <braewoods> let's give it a spin
23.58.05 #       <braewoods> interesting how short the releases back here were
23.58.20 #       <this_is_a_nick> on october 5th, commit c6f66cf replaced the direct pitchscreen access in the WPS with browse. Is there a way for me to change it back without having to edit the code and recompile?
23.58.23 #       <this_is_a_nick> https://git.rockbox.org/cgit/rockbox.git/commit/?id=c6f66cf696a4a0802dad8128dd985c7ab6489602