--- Log for 03.02.121 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 23 days and 13 hours ago 00.57.53 Quit bzed (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.00.11 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@shell.bzed.at) 01.09.21 # No, headphone remotes won't work, there is no hardware support afaik on the m3k. 01.11.09 # They are usually handled by the DAC itself 01.12.02 # such as most modern USB-C audio dongles for smartphones, those are single-chip (mostly realtek) solutions that has built-in ADC to convert the analog keys to USB HID 01.13.44 # On the m3k I believe headphone jack detection is actually hooked up to a GPIO on the AXP192 01.49.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.08.45 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.39.48 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 03.49.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.40 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 04.29.43 Join jdarnley [0] (~J_Darnley@d51A44418.access.telenet.be) 04.32.57 Quit J_Darnley (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.39.41 Quit livvy (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 04.40.35 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 05.36.53 Join J_Darnley [0] (~J_Darnley@d51A44418.access.telenet.be) 05.37.59 Quit jdarnley (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.49.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.14.57 Quit Stanley00 () 07.21.01 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 07.21.44 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 07.31.21 Join MrZeus [0] (~MrZeus@194.37.96.103) 07.49.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.09.30 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4e82f.dyn.optonline.net) 09.49.42 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.15.33 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 10.32.13 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 10.36.08 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 10.39.11 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 11.14.29 Quit _bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 11.16.30 Join _bilgus [0] (~bilgus@cpe-107-11-237-184.columbus.res.rr.com) 11.18.14 Quit _bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 11.20.25 Join _bilgus [0] (~bilgus@cpe-107-11-237-184.columbus.res.rr.com) 11.49.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.59 Quit J_Darnley (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.52.39 # am i right that none of the current sansa players for sale can run rockbox? 11.52.45 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 11.55.34 Join J_Darnley [0] (~J_Darnley@d51A44418.access.telenet.be) 12.06.22 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 12.07.05 Quit J_Darnley (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.07.10 Join jdarnley [0] (~J_Darnley@d51A44418.access.telenet.be) 12.16.30 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.31.42 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.32.21 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.40.48 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 13.08.03 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-66.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 13.20.29 Nick St3ak` is now known as St3ak (~st3ak@st3ak3000.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) 13.30.47 # chrisb: correct. 13.49.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.51.51 # speachy: thanks 13.58.53 # from the talk here, fiio m3k is coming along quickly, and that is currently produced and sold, right? 14.26.41 Quit jdarnley (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.28.26 Join J_Darnley [0] (~J_Darnley@d51a44418.access.telenet.be) 14.39.48 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 14.40.11 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 14.46.37 # chrisb: you still have the option of buying used hardware to rebuild or so. the older HDD based units are a pretty good choice for that. 14.46.51 # their batteries and drives are usually removeable 14.47.22 # I'd still recommend the EROS Q/K (and clones) over the M3K, if you care about using it *today* 14.48.15 # the iriver H100 series (H100, H120, H140) are pretty decent still 14.49.10 # i upgraded their bootloader last year to fix some old bugs that plagued users of CF cards and such 14.49.57 # H300 is also pretty decent but not much better than the H100. 14.50.16 # color screen, RTC chip, are the main differences 14.50.23 # and usb charging 14.50.37 # the iriver H100 and H300 don't use proprietary plugs 14.50.41 # kinda unusual 14.50.54 # micro usb for UMS 14.51.03 # barrel jack for charging or power 14.51.25 # i use a barrel jack to usb to charge mine 14.51.31 # since it's the same voltage and all 14.51.53 # ok, the issue I had with the H2 was the uart cable 14.52.04 # speachy: ah. 14.58.20 Join johnb3 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3afb5c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.58.33 Quit livvy (Remote host closed the connection) 14.58.49 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 15.04.38 Quit johnb3 (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 15.40.58 Quit mendelmunkis (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.41.25 # okay, the newer h2 recovery is looking for the model 'eros_h2' 15.41.50 # I've dumped the v1.3 firmware, creating a new update.upt file with the unpatched stuff. 15.48.18 Join mendelmunkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-43568247.dyn.optonline.net) 15.49.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.52.58 Quit _bilgus (Remote host closed the connection) 15.53.38 Join _bilgus [0] (~bilgus@cpe-107-11-237-184.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.53.42 # ok. had to repack everything, but I now have a "stock" 1.3 fw image for 1.3-capable targets. 15.56.38 Join tirred [0] (81bafd65@rh-cardinal--guest-1.nat.iastate.edu) 15.56.58 # braewoods: i have used two sansa e200 since they were new. will i be able to find the parts to keep them going? 90% of use is in a cradle. 15.57.28 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 15.57.59 # chrisb: Depends on the failure but storage and batteries are usually the most common. 15.58.00 # braewoods: i think i have three cables, and one cradle for the sansas 15.58.49 # but if they are soldered them replacing them is difficult or impossible 15.59.11 # chrisb: if you need specialty cables, gomatic tends to sell them. 15.59.13 # braewoods: if i lose storage, do i have to desolder and replace an IC or is it dead 15.59.34 # it's probably Flash which is usually soldered to the board 15.59.53 # replacing it is a mixed bag. i've never heard of someone successfully doing it with other Sansa players. 16.00.03 # I translated part of the rockbox code into a package for another language, do I just need to put a copy of the GPLv2 in the root of the project and then be good to go to put it on github? Definitely be making sure to give the credit to rockbox in the readme. 16.00.08 # braewoods: can i boot from sd card? 16.00.21 # Code licensing isn't remotely covered in school lol 16.00.41 # chrisb: possibly. someone mentioned sansa bootloaders now have a SD card boot option. 16.00.48 # i don't know who was the principle author of that. 16.00.49 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 1 day and 0 hours at the last flood 16.00.49 # * chrisb checks out eros Q/K 16.00.52 # _bilgus: was that you? 16.01.38 # chrisb: in any case, the older HDD units are generally more repairable but they're also larger in most cases. 16.01.48 # the philips gogear HDD16xx series was an exception 16.01.57 # it uses 1" CF microdrives 16.02.12 # i got a set of new old stock awhile back 16.02.14 # of them 16.02.28 # i'll get around to upgrading them in the near future 16.02.34 # just so many other things going on lol 16.03.04 # chrisb: another favorite i had was the iriver H10. you can upgrade the storage easily if it's the 20GB version. 16.03.17 # but the IO speed tends to be slow even with flash. 16.03.19 # no idea why. 16.03.30 # the gogear I upgraded before could do 13 MB/s to the upgrade storage 16.03.32 # both directions 16.03.34 # how can I identify clones of eros Q K players 16.03.44 # no idea. speachy would probably know more. 16.03.53 # i know more about older ports. 16.04.01 # chrisb: They look the same? :) 16.04.15 # chrisb: the known clones are listed on the wiki page 16.04.25 # https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AIGOErosQK 16.04.32 # oops, i did not realize this was all there... 16.04.37 # * chrisb goes to the wiki 16.05.55 # Also, is there a set of files that can be used to test out the metadata parser? 16.06.52 # Or would it be best to make my own? 16.10.18 # I don't think there's any particular set. 16.10.25 # at least nothing that can be publicly shared 16.11.47 # ok, it lives! 16.12.05 # unfortunately this throws a bit wrench into rbutil. 16.12.44 # speachy darn haha, i've just been running it against a subset of my collection for now 16.13.50 # blbro[m]: there are now two variants of the hifiwalker, unfortunately there's no automated way to determine which variant it is. 16.14.37 # and they need slightly different firmware update images, and therefore different bsdiff patches. @$@$%!! 16.14.47 # not sure how we'd accomodate this in rbutil. 16.15.05 # (there's also no publicly-available fw update image for the newer version, but I did hack one together) 16.17.49 # johnb: If you still have your v1.3 H2, let me know if you want a suitable image. 16.18.08 # I can hack together a v1.3 firmware updater that will run on the v1.2 firmware too 16.20.28 # speachy: the hifiwalker is one of those eros players, so we can simply treat it as a new one. Since they all share the same USB ID we cannot tell them apart anyway, so the user has to do that. 16.20.54 # unless it's impossible for the user to tell them apart. That would be annoying. 16.21.04 # further complication is that there's no upstream download for the unpatched firmware. 16.21.28 # bluebrother: so any "bsdiff" is generated against the one I built using a nand dump of the stock player. 16.21.40 # bluebrother: it's queryable from the OF player UI. 16.21.51 # no idea if anything has changed 16.21.54 # ok, so at least that would be doable. 16.24.11 # we create a new firmware file we put on the player and it then updates itself, right? 16.26.05 # so we could use a prepatched image. If we want to distribute that -- in the past we usually didn't. 16.26.57 # I don't see any way around that at this point. :/ 16.27.55 # assuming we're willing to distribute a prepatched image that shouldn't be much of an issue -- just install a bootloader "file". 16.28.00 # * speachy nods. 16.28.10 # I have a pre-patched file on d.r.o already. 16.28.20 # otherwise "someone" could host an OF image. 16.28.29 # I'd intended to nuke the other prepatched ones once the new rbutil release is out 16.28.32 # someone as in non-Rockbox. 16.28.40 # right, wanted to finish that up ... 16.28.59 # yeah, when that "someone" is me, hosted on the same physical server, the distinction really is splitting hairs. :) 16.29.25 # f.e. rasher has this mirror of Iriver h100 / h300 firmware files. 16.29.50 # could be some link in the wiki to one of those cloud download services :) 16.30.02 # but it's still "someone" that has to do it. 16.30.38 # and the reason why we didn't distribute OF images in the past still stands. Doesn't mean a willing individual couldn't do it. 16.30.43 # OTOH, it's not like hifiwalker (or indeed, any of these Ingenic ports) is in any position to talk about copyright violations. :) 16.31.04 # but yeah, if you do it on the same physical server it's kinda splitting hairs :) 16.31.49 # anyway, I don't see a big issue from a Rockbox Utility point of view -- just the inconvenience that the user has to check which one to use. 16.32.06 # and obviously the how-to-get-the-OF issue. But that's a separate one. 16.32.20 # kk 16.33.54 # oh, that is under the assumption that the player won't get bricked if you use the wrong update file. 16.34.16 # though I assume its update functionality has some checks for that 16.34.55 # no, it won't brick anything; it'll just fail the update. 16.34.57 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 16.36.06 # I already have a private mirror of these various ingenic OF images; finding and extracting them from their upstream is a royal PITA. 16.38.13 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 16.39.38 Quit _bleb (Client Quit) 16.40.05 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 17.06.09 Quit _bleb (Quit: leaving) 17.09.02 Quit tirred (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.14.45 Quit mendelmunkis (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.31.29 Join mendelmunkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-43568247.dyn.optonline.net) 17.39.43 Quit livvy (Quit: Network issue or system upgrade probably or maybe I'm testing a new kernel.) 17.49.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.51.03 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 17.51.46 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 18.05.32 Quit koniu (Remote host closed the connection) 18.05.57 Join koniu [0] (~koniu@gateway/tor-sasl/koniu) 18.43.36 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.59.42 Quit _bleb (Quit: leaving) 19.00.30 Quit ac_laptop (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) 19.00.46 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 19.01.45 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 19.05.40 Quit _bleb (Client Quit) 19.08.13 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 19.15.02 Quit _bleb (Quit: leaving) 19.19.02 Quit livvy (Remote host closed the connection) 19.28.10 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 19.42.39 Quit blackyus17 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.44.42 Quit livvy (Remote host closed the connection) 19.49.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.58.09 Quit mendelmunkis (Remote host closed the connection) 19.58.28 Join mendelmunkis [0] (~mendelmun@ool-43568247.dyn.optonline.net) 19.58.30 Join blackyus17 [0] (~blackyus1@ip189.ip-144-217-213.net) 19.59.08 Nick asaba is now known as yukinchan (~asaba@103.113.159.184) 19.59.25 Nick yukinchan is now known as asaba (~asaba@103.113.159.184) 19.59.44 Join livvy [0] (~livvy@gateway/tor-sasl/livvy) 20.24.18 Quit MrZeus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20.28.56 Join _bleb [0] (cm@faeroes.sdf.org) 20.34.55 # bluebrother: g#3115 should do the trick, I think? 20.58.21 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 20.58.26 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.10.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.11.39 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.48.38 # <_bilgus> braewoods, yes thatsme 21.49.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.08.54 Join f1reflyylmao [0] (~f1refly@dynamic-077-008-096-160.77.8.pool.telefonica.de) 22.09.32 Quit f1refly (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.06.16 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.49.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"