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08.56.56 #       <amachronic> speachy: I managed to get usb working on the fiio m3k, sort of
08.57.24 #       <amachronic> it doesn't seem to respond properly though and never enumerates
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09.20.02 #       <speachy> "sort of" eh?
09.22.15 #       <amachronic> it appears that packets are recieved but idk if they're being recieved correctly,
09.22.28 #       <amachronic> and wireshark shows the packets from the device are malformed
09.22.39 #       <amachronic> they've just got random lengths and no data.
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10.25.28 #       <braewoods> sounds like corruption or something
10.26.09 #       <braewoods> i wonder if lowering the USB standard would help
10.29.33 #       <speachy> the real question is what's getting sent on the wire; we can't trust a sw-based sniffer in this context.
10.30.36 #       <braewoods> sounds like we need a special usb cable that has wires partially exposed
10.30.48 #       <braewoods> maybe connected to a breakout board
10.31.20 #       <braewoods> or some usb monitor in the middle
10.31.33 #       <speachy> I have a proper HW USB sniffer, but that doesn't do amachronic any good.  :)
10.31.52 #       <braewoods> what do they cost?
10.32.18 #       <amachronic> turns out the setup data recieved on the m3k are just zeros
10.32.28 #       <speachy> USB 2.0 capable is on the order of $1K, give or take
10.32.35 #       <braewoods> ...
10.32.37 #       <speachy> USB 3+ is a lot more
10.32.38 #       <braewoods> ._.
10.32.51 #       <braewoods> it doesn't sound like it should cost that much
10.33.40 #       <amachronic> I don't think a hw sniffer should be needed.. it's more likely a simple hw configuration problem
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10.34.02 #       <braewoods> having one would help but yea
10.34.33 #       <speachy> DMA issue, most likely
10.34.51 #       <braewoods> can we bypass DMA for testing purposes?
10.35.22 #       <braewoods> afaik DMA is usually optional
10.36.36 #       <braewoods> speachy: did you see the new post on the forums? they were trying to source a new player. i offered what little i could think of.
10.36.53 #       <speachy> ... given that the USB uses its own mastering DMA controller, I wonder if we might have to play games to enable it to work
10.37.25 #       <amachronic> do you know if the dwc2 core can use slave mode if it was built for DMA?
10.38.09 #       <braewoods> does fiio provide kernel source? can we use that to help us out?
10.38.16 #       <amachronic> yeah but it's a mess
10.38.29 #       <braewoods> better than nothing
10.39.07 #       <braewoods> i've spent time digging through kernel source before
10.39.12 #       <braewoods> you want me to look sometime?
10.39.21 #       <amachronic> sure, always helps to have a 2nd pair of eyes
10.39.34 #       <braewoods> i've mostly written userspace C though
10.39.48 #       <amachronic> I already checked the config in fiio's kernel, but not sure it's the right one
10.40.08 #       <braewoods> and it might be partially done from userspace
10.40.18 #       <braewoods> do we have the userspace source as well?
10.40.30 #       <braewoods> but all the hardware initialization should be done by the kernel
10.40.31 #       <speachy> I'm pretty sure you can always use PIO, though the DWC2 driver might not be set up for that.
10.41.27 #       <amachronic> we don't have userspace source but the fiio player app is built with debugging symbols
10.41.36 #       <amachronic> afaik there's not much else running on the OF
10.41.43 #       <braewoods> i see
10.41.50 #       <braewoods> so a bit blind
10.42.08 #       <braewoods> ok, so we'll also need to monitor any userspace access points
10.42.21 #       <braewoods> ioctl is a prime candidate for that
10.42.26 #       <braewoods> so is /sys
10.42.47 #       <braewoods> i can't think of any others of relevance
10.43.00 #       <amachronic> given that the vortex port just does insmod dwc2 (and it works), it seems unlikely there's any userspace magic
10.43.12 #       <braewoods> those are the main two ways to interact with hardware from userspace
10.43.24 #       <braewoods> that isn't block device anyways
10.43.37 #       <amachronic> oh, looks like it's a DMA problem
10.43.42 #       <amachronic> I built with USB_DW_ARCH_SLAVE and it works
10.43.49 #       <amachronic> (or at least something happened)
10.44.00 #       <braewoods> we'll want DMA if we can get it working
10.44.07 #       <braewoods> but progress is progress
10.44.24 #       <braewoods> the m3k is more powerful than many of our ports
10.44.33 #       <braewoods> maybe we don't need DMA per say
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10.44.54 #       <amachronic> I'm getting like 10 MiB/sec read speeds
10.45.02 #       <braewoods> so like 1.2 megabytes?
10.45.09 #       <braewoods> or
10.45.15 #       <amachronic> no 10 megabytes = 10 * 1024 * 1024 bytes
10.45.15 #       <braewoods> how does that compare to stock FW?
10.45.39 #       <braewoods> it's possible the OF doesn't even use DMA
10.45.59 #       <braewoods> that's still pretty respectable
10.46.15 #       <braewoods> the best our older targets dcan do is around 13
10.46.41 #       <speachy> niice
10.46.58 #       <braewoods> if an unmodified m3k produces around the same
10.47.00 #       <braewoods> then
10.47.07 #       <braewoods> that would be good to know
10.47.22 #       <braewoods> if it's much faster then we probably know it's using DMA
10.47.27 #       <amachronic> well, my OF won't boot right now, so I can't check
10.47.31 #       <braewoods> ok
10.47.34 #       <braewoods> just an idea
10.48.01 #       <braewoods> speachy: i wonder if this will allow for dual booting later on.
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11.06.58 #       <amachronic> the OF can do 17-18 MiB/second
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17.12.38 #       <braewoods> speachy: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide
17.12.50 #       <braewoods> what do you make of what it says under 40 pin ZIF about gigabeat S?
17.13.05 #       <braewoods> i get the impression it's saying that the typical cheap adapters won't work
17.13.30 #       <braewoods> makes me wonder if an iFlash would work
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19.27.39 #       <speachy> braewoods: I can't comment beyond whatever it says..
19.27.51 #       <braewoods> ok
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20.51.09 #       <se7en> I have just installed Rockbox onto an iPod Nano g2
20.51.19 #       <se7en> Attempting to open the game Doom has resulted in a kernel panic
20.51.29 #       <se7en> I do not know how to turn off the device, or restart it
20.55.14 #       <se7en>  
20.58.48 #       <se7en> I believe I will have to wait for the recently charged battery to die
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21.37.20 #       <speachy> se7en: there's a hard reset button combo.  don't recall it offhand, but google will tell you what it is.
21.39.38 #       <se7en> Tnx
21.39.49 #       <se7en> It was Toggle Hold, then hold Menu + Center
21.41.32 #       <se7en> Is there a way to configure one of those earbuds that have the controller on them to work with Rockbox?
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23.35.54 #       <_bilgus> jeez that was a rabbit hole but luas do_menu --analogue now has a way to pull in user colors and the buttons should be a bit better too
23.36.57 #       <_bilgus> oh and icons!