--- Log for 03.05.121 Server: tepper.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 17 hours ago 00.16.36 Join daswf852 [0] (~daswf852@unaffiliated/dwf) 00.23.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.03.44 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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I vaguely recall the two CPUs having different IRAM banks, but that does seem unlikely. 12.49.57 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:bd03:3fdd:3b00:3065) 13.03.40 Quit Moarc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.04.16 Quit tomeaton17 (Quit: Connection closed) 13.04.54 Join Moarc [0] (~chujko@a105.net128.okay.pl) 13.10.13 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-66.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 13.19.36 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 13.21.36 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@89-92-69-66.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 13.41.08 Join tomeaton17 [0] (5207f844@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.7.248.68) 14.07.03 Quit tomeaton17 (Quit: Connection closed) 14.23.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.39.45 Quit Saijin_Naib_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.39.55 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-c47c-5ace-bd48-49be.res6.spectrum.com) 15.02.04 Quit calebccff (Quit: Idle timeout reached: 10800s) 15.35.02 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: "It's now safe to turn off your computer.") 15.53.21 Quit Natch (*.net *.split) 15.53.21 Quit fs-bluebot_ (*.net *.split) 15.53.21 Quit lemon_jesus (*.net *.split) 15.53.21 Quit f1refly (*.net *.split) 15.53.22 Quit rogeliodh (*.net *.split) 15.55.15 Join Natch [0] (~Natch@c-e070e255.014-297-73746f25.bbcust.telenor.se) 15.55.15 Join fs-bluebot_ [0] (~fs-bluebo@55d4bc24.access.ecotel.net) 15.55.15 Join lemon_jesus [0] (~lemon_jes@208.59.79.137) 15.55.15 Join f1refly [0] (~f1refly@pd954c585.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.55.15 Join rogeliodh [0] (~rogeliodh@rogeliodh.dev) 16.10.10 # Hmm, I seem to have a problem. I was getting music on my clip+, but it showed a kernel panic, screen went black and nothing happens now 16.10.29 # Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 4f83e66cd4, 298 builds, 8 clients. 16.11.56 # Oh, nevermind. Just came back to life 16.13.44 Quit Saijin_Naib (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.14.53 # RafiX: if the power button no longer works, you can try just holding the power button for > 10 seconds to trigger a hard shutdown, then power on again 16.22.28 Join tomeaton17 [0] (5207f844@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.82.7.248.68) 16.23.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.26.22 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 16.31.38 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-198a-7225-58a0-ba9b.res6.spectrum.com) 16.38.13 # Build Server message: Build round completed after 1663 seconds. 16.38.16 # Build Server message: Revision 4f83e66cd4 result: All green 16.51.11 Quit ac_laptop (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) 16.56.54 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.04.20 Quit ac_laptop (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) 17.12.58 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.13.24 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.18.46 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.19.29 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.23.03 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.24.01 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.25.02 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.26.42 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.27.21 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.27.34 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.28.11 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.32.42 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 17.32.46 Join Saijin-Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-198a-7225-58a0-ba9b.res6.spectrum.com) 17.32.50 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-198a-7225-58a0-ba9b.res6.spectrum.com) 17.33.47 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 17.35.23 Quit tomeaton17 (Quit: Connection closed) 17.37.07 Quit Saijin-Naib (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.46.15 Quit ac_laptop (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) 17.48.32 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.50.16 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.52.04 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.52.34 Quit ac_laptop (Client Quit) 17.54.09 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) 17.56.37 Quit Saijin_Naib (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.58.22 Join ilo [0] (~oem@static-198-54-132-62.cust.tzulo.com) 17.58.54 # Are any of the new Sandisk clip (sport, jam etc) players going to be supported? 18.00.09 # no 18.00.10 # I had a Sandisk Clip Zip however the battery died, I don't see any Clip, Clip+ or Clip Zip's for sale but tons of the new models 18.00.14 # at least highly unlikely 18.00.27 # what are the reasons why they will not be supported? 18.01.07 # i think the clip sport had weird hardware, not as capable as the earlier clips 18.01.45 # the Clip Jam looks even simpler, smaller screen and b/w 18.02.28 # Are there any other similar devices from other manufacturers that are supported (similar size with sd card support)? 18.04.53 # I don't know, mp3 players are not really being manufactured anymore 18.05.23 # maybe you can find secondhand apple nano's 18.05.43 # but not all models are supported, the older ones are 18.06.05 # I found an article on Linux Magazine that suggested a Sandisk Clip sport is just a rebranded clip zip 18.06.23 # It seems to be suggesting it might work: 18.06.25 # However, if a music player is not listed as being supported on the project site’s home page, check the forums. Sometimes, a model may be a repackaging of an earlier device. For example, while the SanDisk Clip Sport is not listed as supported, it turns out to be merely a rebranded SanDisk Clip Zip. 18.06.32 # https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Freeing-Your-Music-Player-with-Rockbox 18.06.48 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.06.59 # Do those Nano's accept sd cards? 18.07.57 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.08.41 # I'm pretty sure that the clip sport is quite different from a clip zip 18.11.48 # I will go look in the forums to see if anyone else has tried it 18.13.04 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@pdpc/supporter/active/cockroach) 18.13.33 # https://forums.rockbox.org doesn't appear to have a search function 18.13.57 # nevermind found it 18.23.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.25.29 # <_bilgus> clip zip and fuze+ were the last sandisk players capable of running rockbox no sports or later are 18.25.48 # <_bilgus> not enough ram.. 18.28.59 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-198a-7225-58a0-ba9b.res6.spectrum.com) 18.33.31 Quit Saijin_Naib (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.41.24 # ilo: is that all you're looking for in a player? 18.41.38 # small size? 18.43.16 # ilo: I have some iRivers I could sell you if you don't mind their larger size. 18.43.38 # Assuming you live in the US so shipping is reasonable. 18.44.05 # thanks for the offer but yeah I am specifically looking for small + sd card 18.44.37 # I see. too bad. Try looking for some of the newer ports. Maybe the Xduoo x3 18.44.41 # it uses SD card. 18.45.15 # https://www.ebay.com/itm/184809464138 18.46.03 # the most recent ports are still under development 18.47.44 # but yea, most of the older ports are like smart phone size 18.48.11 # the only remotely tiny one is the ones that use CF cards 18.48.24 # the ipod mini and philips gogear HDD1630 18.48.28 # for example 18.48.48 # no SD card but you can still upgrade the internal storage very high 18.49.06 # sd card only matters imho if you have to replace the storage often or so 18.50.56 # xduo looks interesting stil much larger than the clips its too bad Western Digital ruined them, ive owned several over the years all with rockbox it was a great combo 18.52.43 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 18.53.33 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 18.53.37 Join Saijin-Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 18.53.42 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 18.56.08 Join saratoga [0] (620acd42@cpe-98-10-205-66.rochester.res.rr.com) 18.56.34 # The Sport, etc are rebrands of some generic Chinese MP3 players, not of the Zip 18.56.48 # everything in them is made by a different company 18.57.22 # CPU doesn't even run the same instruction set and they have no DRAM, so zero chance the Zip port will work on them 18.57.43 Quit Saijin-Naib (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.13.37 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 19.19.11 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.20.56 Join FroggestSpirit [0] (18c0819f@d192-24-159-129.try.wideopenwest.com) 19.21.22 # Hello, I'm trying to build the Fiio M3K native port, and get this error: 19.21.22 # fatal error: sysfont.h: No such file or directory 19.28.15 # try make clean and see if it goes away 19.29.43 # oh wow, that worked. I didn't think to try that since it was my first build. Thanks! 19.30.06 # maybe because I tried building once before I had the mips toolchain set up 19.32.02 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 19.32.05 # Thanks saratoga for the details, that is sad news, I loved the rockbox + clip combo and there doesn't appear to be anything similar replacing it. 19.32.06 Join Saijin-Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.32.10 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.34.14 # agptek looks to have a similar product does anyone know if a port has been tried for this model? Does it have any DRAM? 19.36.14 Quit Saijin-Naib (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.43.24 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 19.43.28 Join Saijin_Naib_ [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.43.49 Quit FroggestSpirit (Quit: Connection closed) 19.50.00 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.50.09 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 19.50.13 Join Saijin-Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.53.28 Quit Saijin_Naib_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.53.44 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.53.54 Quit Saijin_Naib (Disconnected by services) 19.53.58 Join Saijin_Naib_ [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 19.57.22 Quit Saijin-Naib (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.59.14 Quit ilo (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 20.14.43 # some of the apgtek players have ports 20.23.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.24.04 # The Clip Jam, Clip Sport, Clip Sport Plus, and Clip Sport Go will never see a rockbox port. 20.25.43 # I think that's even in the rockbox FAQ somewhere 20.26.53 # ilo: There are a _ton_ of players built on the same basic hw platform (Actions ATJ21x7) . Another popular low-end SoC is Rockchip's RKNano series. 20.27.41 # neither can run rockbox, at least not without cutting out most of the features folks expect and completely redoing the internal architecure along the way 21.12.45 Quit Saijin_Naib_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.13.05 Join Saijin_Naib [0] (~Saijin_Na@2603-7081-1d05-7230-d4ed-cf98-10da-1aef.res6.spectrum.com) 21.47.14 # <_bilgus> so like not really worth it on our end but maybe someone else might 21.47.23 # <_bilgus> doubtful though 21.50.15 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 21.52.12 # Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 489a5f3ff7, 298 builds, 7 clients. 22.13.52 # Build Server message: Build round completed after 1300 seconds. 22.13.56 # Build Server message: Revision 489a5f3ff7 result: 0 errors 62 warnings 22.17.48 # _bilgus: we almost had a clean board. :/ 22.23.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.46.59 # <_bilgus> hmm 22.47.53 # <_bilgus> ahh haha 22.48.15 # <_bilgus> I was looking at that code earlier like well its workjing so it must be right 22.48.42 # <_bilgus> I have another commit I'm gonna add to that I'll fix it too 22.59.26 Quit ac_laptop (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.14.46 # Build Server message: New build round started. Revision 9b2f23319c, 298 builds, 7 clients. 23.16.32 Quit saratoga (Quit: Connection closed) 23.21.01 Quit aevin (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.21.11 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 23.29.09 # Build Server message: Build round completed after 863 seconds. 23.29.13 # Build Server message: Revision 9b2f23319c result: All green