--- Log for 27.05.121 Server: tantalum.libera.chat Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: rb-logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 16 hours ago 00.24.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.18 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 02.42.46 Quit j-r (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.49.14 Join j-r [0] (~j-r@p20030006233cd683404207fffefd0a65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 03.06.05 # speachy: I don't see the point of shutting it down, really. Leaving it open with notice in the topic as it is should suffice, I'd think. I assume you or someone else did the group registration here though? 03.08.37 # ah - i see you have by your messages in -community 03.57.36 Join Guest21 [0] (~textual@2a00:801:756:a2cd:a916:202f:6b85:3bc9) 04.09.01 Nick Romster_ is now known as Romster (~Romster@158.140.215.184) 04.09.39 Quit Romster (Quit: Leaving) 04.09.55 Join Romster [0] (~Romster@user/romster) 04.24.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.18 Quit ploppy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.06.43 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3af906.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.13.58 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.38.25 Quit Guest21 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06.24.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.44 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3af906.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 06.27.09 # scorche: the main argument against shutting it down is to prevent it from getting hijacked, but there are still more folks in the old channels. I wouldn't want genuine inquiries/etc to end up in a place where nobody's paying attention any more. 06.28.07 # I did put in a registration request but no positive acknowledgement from that yet. But I understand there's still a bit backlog, so it's nbd. 06.29.14 # oh, yuck. 06.31.26 # they came back overnight, but want to verify "ownership" via a DNS record. 06.45.46 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.54.55 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@user/cockroach) 07.27.06 Quit cockroach (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.33.44 # does anyone here have any strong opinions on the answer to 0^0? 07.36.43 # there is only one correct answer to that. 07.38.13 # anything ^0 is 1. though my old TI86 kicks back a 'domain error' 07.38.21 # not according to ##math and wikipedia 07.38.32 # 0^ anything is 0 07.54.38 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@user/cockroach) 07.55.51 # perl returns 1 fwiw 07.58.37 # one rule says 1. but 0 times anything is also 0. so. 07.58.47 # it may be undefined due to this contradiction. 08.00.04 # braewoods: hence my TI Calculator tossing an exception 08.00.29 # speachy: yea but oddly enough no PL seems to mind and just returns 1 08.00.40 # bc does this, php, ... 08.00.58 # <_bilgus> my TI-86 is my most favorite possession 08.01.02 # not wolfram alpha however 08.01.13 # NCalc+ throws an "inderminate" exception too. 08.01.39 # i can't see this mattering most of the time honetly 08.01.44 # unlike division by 0 08.01.55 # ##math basically said you can use div by 0, undefined, 0, or 1 whichever is best for the use case. 08.01.58 # most people don't use 0 as a base 08.02.27 # or use 0 as an exponent 08.02.37 # so them both occurring at the same time is unlikely 08.03.01 # seems mostly a thought experiment 08.03.08 # yes, but I need to special case it regardless to avoid a crash, one I am ddoing so I may as well do it right 08.03.08 # 0 as the exponent has legit uses, but 0^0 is, mathematically, nonsense. 08.03.47 # i'm sure it does speachy but i've never seen it used like this since it wouldn't produce anything useful 08.24.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.35.36 # <_bilgus> seems like it pretty much fits in the '' category 08.42.03 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 08.48.38 Quit daswf852 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.48.54 Join johnb2 [0] (~johnb2@p5b3af906.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.59.28 # thanks 09.00.34 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lemonboy@irssi/staff/TheLemonMan) 09.00.52 Quit johnb2 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.14.20 # mendel_munkis: I'm pretty sure that it's undefined, if you look at the graphs of 0^n and n^0, they converge differently as they both approach zero, but I'm not an expert 09.35.51 Join daswf852 [0] (~daswf852@user/daswf852) 09.55.11 # thanks 10.20.43 Nick braewoods is now known as [tim] (~braewoods@user/braewoods) 10.20.56 Nick [tim] is now known as braewoods (~braewoods@user/braewoods) 10.24.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.32.39 # speachy: we could run a bot in the old channel that responds with the topic whenever someone writes to the channel :) 10.36.44 # bluebrother: sounds like a marvelous idea. are you volunteering? 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I'm planning on installing an iFlash Quad on my iPod video. I read on the forums that rockbox's support of the iflash adapters wasn't really the best. Has this changed? How's your experience with using rockbox on a modded ipod? 18.27.45 # hombrelaser: supposedly it's been fixed in current builds 18.32.11 # So do you recommend me to install nightly builds? 18.32.48 # I'll try it out, iflash is still on shipping, and it'll arrive presumely between june 20th and july something. 18.38.38 Join TorC [0] (~Tor@user/torc) 18.40.48 # hombrelaser: don't bother with 3.15, use the latest nightly and you should be fine. 18.42.41 # Will do. How "unstable" can it really be? 18.43.19 # it's not like we have a formal QA cycle besides "nobody's reported any major issues with it" 18.44.36 # that's good to hear 18.45.09 # I can't wait, really enjoyed my iPod with rockbox when I used it, but then the battery died and the hard drive isn't cutting it anymore. 18.46.23 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@208.38.228.17) 18.59.56 # hombrelaser: and if those don't work there's also the option for CF mod. 19.03.25 # Oh I hope it works then. 50 punds more don't come cheap 19.03.34 # Not in my country anyway 19.18.53 Quit ats (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.19.36 Join ats [0] (~ats@cartman.offog.org) 19.42.20 # nor the CF cards for that matter 19.48.47 # _bilgus, did you ever get a chance to investigate the USB/get_action() stuff? 19.49.20 # I uploaded a compromise workaround to g#3425 if not 19.49.22 # 3Gerrit review #3425 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3425 : 3Yes/No Screen: Allow accept to be button release by Dana Conrad 19.57.21 # also, g#3436 19.57.23 # 3Gerrit review #3436 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3436 : 3Make Softlock-anywhere define-based feature by Dana Conrad 20.16.48 # I should have include 3436 as part of the main patch, but I didn't even think of it until today 20.24.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.27.16 Quit speachy (Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) 20.47.26 # <_bilgus> dconrad, no I haven't yet I've barely worked on my other things TBH 20.48.44 # <_bilgus> now why isn't the better workaround to use the previous behavior what does the release event get us ATM if you'd refresh my memory 20.49.41 # <_bilgus> personally I'd rather you wrap up he good stuff out of that and leave the remap and work around in another patch 20.50.34 # the release event is honestly just because I think it's nicer to use 20.50.53 # I thought it would be an easy change when I started 20.51.13 # <_bilgus> for sure rabbit holes 20.51.38 # <_bilgus> we know some of the patch is good code that we shouldn't need to fix 20.51.40 # but I ran into the bug where usb causes it to just ignore events for some reason 20.51.53 # yeah I can break it into two if that's better 20.52.14 # <_bilgus> but I really hate findingand reverting workarounds rather than fixing the underlying problem 20.52.35 # it just seemed like it was going to be a really nuanced issue to find 20.52.57 # and it's like... well it's this one condition of a feature few people probably use anywya... 20.53.00 # anyway* 20.53.15 # <_bilgus> please do I'll push the first part today and get to the other as I have time or feel free to investigate further 20.53.32 # alright 20.55.27 # hm, if I remove it from the current patch and then make a new commit to the same branch and push, will that do what I want? 20.55.38 # easy enough to try, I suppose 20.57.11 # <_bilgus> maybe 20.57.46 # <_bilgus> sometimes I get an error about squash vs merge or something 20.58.04 # <_bilgus> but I think that was before I started using git-review 21.00.53 # ok, I'm going to push and we'll see what happens 21.01.41 # yeah, that worked ok 21.02.12 # g#3437 is the workaround 21.02.14 # 3Gerrit review #3437 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3437 : 3Yes/No Screen: timeout workaround by Dana Conrad 21.05.04 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 8056b7fd1a, 297 builds, 9 clients. 21.05.28 # <_bilgus> stick around long enough to make sure its green 21.05.35 # you got it 21.15.14 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 611 seconds. 21.15.17 # Build Server message: 3Revision 8056b7fd1a result: All green 21.15.25 # ta-daaa 21.18.15 # <_bilgus> coolthanks! 21.28.40 Quit hombrelaser (Quit: Leaving.) 22.01.32 Quit dconrad (Remote host closed the connection) 22.02.30 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@208.38.228.17) 22.24.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.50.49 Quit dconrad (Remote host closed the connection) 23.00.31 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 23.03.12 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@208.38.228.17) 23.07.26 Quit dconrad (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)