--- Log for 29.09.121 Server: sodium.libera.chat Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: rb-logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 4 hours ago 00.00.08 # <_bilgus> ah but now its popped again 00.00.27 # <_bilgus> yeah I get the same as you were saying earlier 00.01.17 # <_bilgus> I still think its something to do with overwriting te buffer but its not like i'm right enough for that to make it true :P 00.01.29 # thanks for testing. 00.01.42 # <_bilgus> I'm stuck in it currently 00.01.54 # it looks like this runs fine on hosted targets. 00.02.23 # <_bilgus> probbly just not hitting it 00.02.44 # <_bilgus> or the extra memory spreads it far enough apart that it works 00.02.58 # you probably need to hard reset 00.03.10 # <_bilgus> or the underlying os is stopping it 00.03.13 # <_bilgus> yeah I did 00.04.17 # ok, this is probably broken enough to revert. 00.08.40 # <_bilgus> smithjd, playlist_viewer.c ln 333 buffer = plugin_get_buffer(&buffer_size); 00.08.41 # <_bilgus> buffer += buffer_size / 2; 00.08.58 # <_bilgus> moving the buffer further in makes it work 00.09.37 # <_bilgus> so in theory you could leave an area for the plugin (hacky) 00.09.49 # <_bilgus> or you can just treat the viewer as a plugin 00.10.02 # <_bilgus> and then make it unload and reload 00.10.28 # that's a little more invasive than i'd hoped. 00.10.35 # <_bilgus> or instead copy the properties stuff into it 00.10.48 # <_bilgus> but that inflates quite a bit 00.11.43 # <_bilgus> ill be making that playlist viewer a plugin 00.12.03 # <_bilgus> ive already started with the pitch screen 00.21.35 # reverted in Gerrit 00.23.48 # thanks very much for the help. 00.34.30 # <_bilgus> np 00.36.02 # <_bilgus> says merge conflict 00.37.23 # fix the build first then Playlist Viewer:.. 00.41.51 # g'night. 00.43.13 Quit smithjd (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 00.53.31 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. 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Revision b662ff945a, 303 builds, 10 clients. 01.17.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.08 # <_bilgus> damnit 01.22.49 # <_bilgus> well after these two commits the voice issue should be fixed and I think the flyspray report about one of the clips stuttering on startup 01.29.55 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 729 seconds. 01.29.56 # Build Server message: 3Revision b662ff945a result: All green 01.29.59 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision cb2ee6b6cb, 303 builds, 10 clients. 01.31.57 Quit dconrad (Remote host closed the connection) 01.41.59 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 720 seconds. 01.42.00 # Build Server message: 3Revision cb2ee6b6cb result: All green 03.15.45 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@ip5f59e4a0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 03.16.29 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@ip5f59e4a0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 03.17.15 # speachy: hello. I was notified that my @rockbox.org mail doesn't work anymore (and I now see that I don't have a cloak anymore under libera) 03.18.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.04.20 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@208.38.228.17) 04.08.26 Quit dconrad (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.22.17 Quit paulcarroty (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) 04.22.18 Quit kadoban (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) 04.22.19 Quit blbro[m] (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) 04.25.13 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@user/kadoban) 04.31.48 Join paulcarroty [0] (~paulcarro@2001:470:69fc:105::216) 04.31.59 Join blbro[m] [0] (~blbrostra@2001:470:69fc:105::8f7) 05.18.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.00.59 Join MarcAndersen [0] (~no_znepna@85.218.172.116) 06.12.31 # Wow a lot of commits while I was asleep... 06.15.25 # kugel: were you here for the move? that would be why. 06.17.25 # No, I was under some rock apparently 06.24.19 # a box of them ? 06.30.32 # kugel: I can re-create an account for you, just send me the particulars. and it won't be a forwarding alias; you'll need to poll it for mail. 06.32.49 # oh, _bilgus & smithjd, the mips targets are pretty stack-heavy and are usually the first to overflow things. 06.33.30 # vastly better since I put interrupts on their own stack but it's still problematic for tight stacks. 06.38.54 # kugel: and yeah, I lost my cloak for some reason, just haven't got around to asking for it to be restored 06.39.06 # I'll pass onthe requests, just let me know. 06.47.39 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 2ebe69b67a, 303 builds, 10 clients. 06.57.37 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 597 seconds. 06.57.38 # Build Server message: 3Revision 2ebe69b67a result: All green 06.59.22 # speachy: my builder is back up. it went down after some maintenance. 07.10.28 # speachy: how would I poll? 07.10.48 # I can also stop using the alias, not a big deal 07.15.41 # kugel: imap? :) 07.16.01 # kugel: up to you; I was told by the haxx crew that there was nearly zero usage of the @rockbox.org aliases 07.16.22 # and that I should just wait and see who complains. :) 07.18.08 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 07.18.29 # like an ordinary mailbox you mean? 07.19.54 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@user/cockroach) 07.37.15 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 07.40.48 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@user/cockroach) 07.58.44 Quit braewoods (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) 08.03.27 # Is there a way to make a build of only the rockbox.something without any codecs or rocks? 08.03.52 Quit spork (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.11.01 Join Retr0id1 [0] (~Retr0id@user/retr0id) 08.12.10 Quit Retr0id (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08.12.10 Nick Retr0id1 is now known as Retr0id (~Retr0id@user/retr0id) 08.15.44 Join braewoods [0] (~braewoods@user/braewoods) 08.16.48 Join spork [0] (topic@31-151-2-135.dynamic.upc.nl) 08.43.16 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4e82f.dyn.optonline.net) 09.03.18 Quit speachy (Quit: WeeChat 3.2) 09.03.56 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) 09.03.56 Mode "#rockbox +v speachy" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.libera.chat) 09.04.13 # kugel: yes, exactly 09.05.00 # I disabled forwarding-type aliases on my stuff a long time ago because forwarding spam caused a big reputational hit 09.05.29 # (and tha'ts most of what the aliases ended up collecting/relaying...) 09.06.39 # MarcAndersen: last night I committed support for language-specific date readback ordering. Default is "21 September 2021" and US-English is set to the old behaviour of "September 21 2021" 09.07.27 # Ideally textual representation would also be localizable but that's a much more complicated mess to sort out 09.18.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.20.35 # <_bilgus> MarcAndersen, you should actually find your device more responsive if my hunches are correct 09.22.28 # <_bilgus> ...without boosting it always :p 09.22.57 # _bilgus, that ought to apply to a bunch of other devices too, eh? 09.23.32 # <_bilgus> no only the as3525 it had the usb unboosting someon elses boost 09.25.16 # <_bilgus> the voice issue will apply to other devices but I doubt you'd feel it like you feel this one 09.27.15 # early ipods, maybe; they're probably the most underpowered devices we have 09.29.09 # <_bilgus> what was happening with voice was it unboosted but when you switched items not enough time passed to have it reboost so yeah they will probably notice 09.31.28 # guess I'm spolied with my daily driver being the second-most-powerful CPU (and lacking reclocking) of the SoCs we support. :D 09.32.14 # <_bilgus> yeah i love the clip(s) but they are not very powerful 09.34.55 # It was not because of the cpu thing, I just wanted to know if there is a way to build just the binary? 09.35.42 # <_bilgus> you can do builds w/o plugins (amaCHRONI C?) 09.36.54 # MarcAndersen, there's an Advanced build options in the configure script that lets you disable plugins. 09.37.00 # IIRC codecs are still built though 09.37.10 # Ok. That's also the most expensive part, the codecs only takes about a minute or so. 09.37.43 # And thanks for the date thing speachy. 09.37.53 # you need to be careful though, plugins can depend on the language/voice enumerations too, so you don't want to get out of sync 09.38.13 # I see 09.38.43 # (the plugin API/ABI doesn't change too often and IIRC we have some checks in place to prevent loading plugins that are now incompatible..) 09.39.22 # Is it hard to update the translations, because if not I would be happy to help with danish. 09.39.27 # <_bilgus> yeah merged by amachronic g#3711 09.39.30 # 3Gerrit review #3711 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/3711 : 3Add advanced build option to omit building plugins by Aidan MacDonald 09.39.44 # MarcAndersen, you can visit https://translate.rockbox.org 09.39.52 # Will do 09.40.16 # I dnon't know how well the site works with a reader but it doesn't do anything fancy (or any javascript) so should be okay. 09.42.59 # Does this thing only list things that are not translated? 09.43.02 # do SPAs even work with screen readers? 09.44.15 # the upadate form linked from the language name loads up every item it finds problematic (missing translations, source text changed, identical translation to english, etc) 09.45.42 # so basically everything that shows up in one of the columns next to the progress bar will end up on the form. 09.45.49 # But some words like stereo and mono are the same anyway 09.46.30 # That is sometimes (often?) the case, but there's no way for the software to tell if it's a mistake or not. 09.46.54 # I will try to do it now 09.48.07 # when you submit the form it'll save a patch which can be sent to us or otherwise committed 09.49.03 # I'm not sure about the displayed strings, but I will try anyway 09.50.08 # there's not really a good way to do partial updates; if you decide to just go with what you've worked on the missing things will be copied from English. which may or may not be correct. 09.50.18 # but they'll no longer show up as "untranslated" 09.51.31 # (This is not ideal, but when there are legitimate "word/phrase is the same as english" cases we can't just treat "identical" as "untranslated") 09.56.11 # hmm. this is something I should fix -- when the voice for a phrase is blank, we copy it from english, even if the phrase has been translated. 09.56.43 Quit unmanbearpig (Quit: unmanbearpig) 09.57.12 Join unmanbearpig [0] (~unmanbear@45.76.95.141) 10.18.30 # After translating some stuff I see there are tuns of stuff waiting. Is there a way to save what I've done so far and continue another time? 10.18.51 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 757766e807, 303 builds, 12 clients. 10.20.26 # MarcAndersen: no, unfortunately. it's a relatively dumb/simple web form. 10.20.51 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 10.21.03 # Now after you made that commit, will a patch using the form I have opened still work or should I start from scratch? 10.23.50 # it will still work 10.24.15 # I'm trying to improve some of the automatic heuristics 10.24.40 # If I reload the form, will the new voice strings then be filled in, because if so it would be a bit easier for me to translate the rest 10.25.07 # if you reload the form any work you've done will be lost. 10.25.29 # I know, but will the new voice strings be filled in instead? 10.26.23 # I'm not sure; if the browser sends a new request to the server then it'll return the form pre-filled with whatever the server sends back. 10.26.37 # I'm going to try 10.26.51 # (if you want to do that, please wait until I tell you -- this build round needs to finish before the changes I just committed will get passed to the translate site) 10.28.11 # the other thing I still want to do is for where the is translated properly but the is identical to english. I can't think of any scenario where this would be the desired outcome 10.28.31 # in that scenario, just copy over to 10.28.56 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 605 seconds. 10.28.57 # Build Server message: 3Revision 757766e807 result: All green 10.29.59 # Do I need to translate everything at once, or is it ok with just some of it? 10.30.18 # ok, you can reload the form if you want. 10.33.01 # you can translate as much as you want, but whatever you don't translate will get automatically filled in with English phrases, which will screw up the coverage numbers. 10.35.45 # (but they will be flagged in the translation site for subsequent update attempts) 10.36.24 # What do you mean with the coverage numbers? 10.37.24 # the patch generated will have full coverage; ie every phrase will be in there so it will be "100%" coverage. however, if a large number of those are untranslated copies of English phrases, it's not really "complete" 10.37.27 # does that make sense? 10.38.31 # Sure. I'm going to take care of the whole thing at some point in the next few days then, that will make my friend happy. 10.38.50 # <_bilgus> makes us happy too :) 10.42.23 # damnit, there are some scenarios where the voiced text might be the same as english, but the display text might not 10.43.38 # <_bilgus> corner cases? 10.47.39 # no.. I think I'm wrong. display text is the same, voiced is not. phew. 10.53.25 # speachy: It seams that the feature with the voice strings in your commit works, that makes it easier for me, thanks! 10.56.51 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 5883cb4a52, 303 builds, 12 clients. 10.57.41 # Ok, this commit running will prefer the translated strings over strings that are identical to English. 10.58.27 # won't affect Danish much as there are only 105 identical strings. 10.59.08 # I'm not going to reload the form again, I'm working on it 10.59.56 # (I am so glad I refactored all of this crap last summer... so much easier to maintain and enhance) 11.00.32 # REFACTORED? 11.04.18 # yeah, I reworked how language files are parsed/generated, how the voice strings were extracted and processed, greatly improved the cmdline tooling, and generally made the whole infrastructure stack much faster, and more robust. It's what enabled non-English voicefile generation. 11.04.27 # I've done about 23% of it now 11.04.32 # (on the www site, I mean) 11.05.31 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 520 seconds. 11.05.32 # Build Server message: 3Revision 5883cb4a52 result: All green 11.07.31 # sweet, it's live and works. 11.08.12 # tonight's voice builds will represent a considerable improvement 11.18.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.19.09 # I have no idea how to translate the LANG_FILTER_SHORT_SLOW string 11.19.32 # How can something both be short and slow? 11.20.36 # short delay slow roll-off 11.27.40 # also updated the translate site template to flag translations that have a large number of "same as English" phrases. 11.37.27 # What is Auditory Fatigue Reduction exactly? 11.44.03 # I can't do much beyond pointing you at the wikipedia page for Audio Fatigue. 11.45.01 # we have some dsp functionality that tries to minimize it, but I don't know what it does at a technical level. 11.45.49 # might just prevent rapid volume changes 12.01.17 # What is Exempt Play? 12.29.40 # I'm nearly halfway through 12.55.13 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@2a02:8108:943f:d824:c504:1756:b772:eb3a) 13.04.03 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@2a01cb04012c09006422467a4533c498.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.18.19 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 13.57.02 Join bilgus_ph [0] (~bilgus_ph@172.58.46.172) 13.57.16 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.57.48 # Marcandersen sounds like selective backlight and lock 13.58.37 # Exempting a button makes it no enable backlight on press or allows it to not be locked while other keys are locked 13.59.09 # On which targets? 13.59.21 # Most 13.59.30 # Thanks 14.00.00 # The lock stuff is only for targets without a real dedicated key lock switch 14.01.34 Quit bilgus_ph (Client Quit) 14.27.38 # Oh no! My browser crashed and I was almost finished! 14.28.03 # I'm not gonna start over right now, but I will do it soon. 14.31.55 Quit MarcAndersen (Quit: I was using NightOwl 0.2.) 14.32.21 Join MarcAndersen [0] (~no_znepna@85.218.172.116) 14.33.01 # MarcAndersen: well, crap. I think that happened to someone trying to update the Hungarian translation a while back. 14.50.27 # avoid typing anything big in browser 14.51.04 # I will do it tomorrow then 14.53.17 # I wonder how hard it would be to adapt our language files to weblate or something like that 14.57.49 # <_bilgus> look intriguing and its FOSS 15.01.39 # I could spin up an instance and point it at rbutil initially. 15.18.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.38.45 # https://xkcd.com/1764/ 16.26.33 Quit speachy (Quit: Connection closed) 17.07.53 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 17.18.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.34.19 Join Moriar [0] (~moriar@107-200-193-159.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 17.50.19 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@taster.shaftnet.org) 17.50.19 Quit speachy (Changing host) 17.50.19 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) 17.50.19 Mode "#rockbox +v speachy" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.libera.chat) 18.26.16 Quit unmanbearpig (Changing host) 18.26.16 Join unmanbearpig [0] (~unmanbear@user/unmanbearpig) 18.57.58 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 19.18.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.40.41 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@208.38.228.17) 19.42.31 Quit dconrad (Client Quit) 20.08.28 Quit unmanbearpig (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.41.30 Join unmanbearpig [0] (~unmanbear@45.76.95.141) 20.46.15 Quit MarcAndersen (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.02.18 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@user/advcomp2019) 21.18.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.45.48 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 23.01.01 Quit Moriar (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.18.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"