--- Log for 27.10.121 Server: calcium.libera.chat Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: rb-logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 2 hours ago 00.47.27 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 01.22.14 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5abcae.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 01.26.58 Quit ZincAlloy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.25.20 # oh nice ! 02.47.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.47.32 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 05.27.33 Join nihilazo [0] (~nihilazo@2607:f298:5:101d:f816:3eff:fe1a:29a3) 05.30.03 # hi, I want to develop a plugin that will eventually target all devices but I need to chose a device to use as my simulator target for developing/testing it. What device is a good choice as like, an average baseline for players 05.30.53 # munkis on which device did you tried USB Audio ? 05.31.10 # the plugin will involve graphics so I want to pick something with an LCD (my only physical player, an x3, has a 1-bit display. It should work on all devices eventually but I need to pick a simulated one to test with that has an LCD 05.33.15 # edhelas: it's an experimental feature not even in the dev build. 06.00.17 # nihilazo: why would that matter? afaik the X3 is a monochrome OLED but should work similar to a monochrome LCD. 06.00.37 # nihilazo: but in any case, you want color I assume? 06.00.55 # speachy would probably recommend one of the ipods. 06.01.12 # i only have experience with mostly HDD units, the older kind. 06.01.27 # yeah I'd like to be able to test something with color too 06.01.38 # most of the color ones, iirc, are PP units 06.01.48 # PP? 06.01.52 # portalplayer 06.02.13 # that's the most common type of older player 06.02.40 # it's a good test of how it would work on slower hardware 06.02.52 # 66mhz dual core, iirc 06.02.59 # armv4 06.03.20 # there's only one coldfire with color that i know of 06.03.32 # iriver H300 series 06.04.08 # let me think. the iriver H10 is a decent choice, PP based but last i tried it was freezing up on me. 06.04.16 # i didn't have a chance to look into it more. 06.04.44 # for higher end, there's the gigabeat S. color screen and a lot of resources for a 2006 player. 06.04.54 # 64MB of ram 06.05.15 # not yet officially supported 06.05.19 # for automatic installers 06.05.30 # basically just needs minor polishing to be "stable" 06.05.49 # ah ok 06.06.05 # nihilazo: most of the sansa devices are probably too weak to be useful, depending on what you're doing 06.06.46 # they have low ram, slow cpu, or both 06.07.03 # I want to port this VM https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/varvara.html 06.07.05 # there's probably some worth using but i don't know them all 06.07.25 # it's very small, it can run on the gba for sure which is my only reference 06.07.42 # and will run on esp32s and such 06.07.50 # so I think pp devices should be able to handle it 06.07.55 # (although I'm not sure) 06.08.06 # so basically something akin to LUA 06.08.20 # more specialized but same idea 06.09.15 # not really? it's smaller than lua I think? Closer to a NES emulator, but simpler 06.09.18 # huh. this could be a useful tie-in to something else i'm planning. 06.09.18 # yeah 06.09.22 # oh? 06.09.58 # well, depends. but MTP is pretty versatile. i'm planning to implement that in time. it could be used to receive a program payload. 06.10.26 # MTP storage doesn't have to be an actual filesystem. 06.11.06 # i have plans for basic device control from the host end using MTP. 06.11.23 # maybe more, depends what i find. 06.12.15 # cool 06.12.59 # it'll need custom client software to work but by using the MTP spec to do it i can leave say i'm using an open standard so to speak 06.13.15 # it's just not many clients really used MTP for more than file access 06.13.25 # but the spec has support for a fair bit more 06.14.28 # I only know MTP for file access 06.14.50 # also, I just noticed pdbox - does rockbox have a puredata implementation? That's pretty neat 06.14.52 # yea but you can also check your device battery level and RTC time from it. 06.15.16 # one feature i'd like is to be able to sync the rockbox RTC with the host RTC 06.15.20 # MTP can do that 06.15.36 # could be a boon for RTC devices 06.15.47 # oh that's really cool 06.16.32 # but first stage is making the main feature of MTP work. 06.16.35 # file access. 06.16.49 # all this extra stuff is probably going to be a secondary mode 06.16.58 # at least playback control will be 06.17.11 # but if i can find a way to make it work 06.17.23 # i would like to see a way to drive rockbox's basic playback from MTP. 06.17.55 # it will provide a "safer" alternative to the regular method 06.18.05 # it may be slower but it will be safer 06.18.18 # obviously MTP won't be usable in bootloader mode 06.18.23 # since, why would you use it there? 06.18.28 # you want raw access in bootloader mode 06.18.32 # it's the only way to fix some issues 06.26.42 # yeah 06.47.35 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 06.59.36 Join ac_laptop [0] (~ac_laptop@2a01:cb1c:3c8:2700:e29d:31ff:fe2d:a258) 07.10.05 # I assume rockbox doesn't have SDL? 07.12.18 Quit tertu (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit yang (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit Romster (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit Piece_Maker (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit Solanacean_ (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit ufdm (*.net *.split) 07.12.18 Quit munkis (*.net *.split) 07.12.19 Quit cb_ (*.net *.split) 07.15.31 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@c-73-242-8-176.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 07.15.31 Join yang [0] (~yang@fsf/member/yang) 07.15.31 Join Romster [0] (~romster@user/romster) 07.15.31 Join Piece_Maker [0] (~Piece_Mak@cpc95746-bolt17-2-0-cust360.10-3.cable.virginm.net) 07.15.31 Join Solanacean_ [0] (solanacean@176.214.16.178) 07.15.31 Join ufdm [0] (~ufdm@c-73-164-63-214.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 07.15.31 Join munkis [0] (~mendel_mu@ool-ae2cb218.dyn.optonline.net) 07.15.31 Join cb_ [0] (~calvin@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-90-145.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net) 07.22.08 # nihilazo: don't ask me about any details, but there is an SDL port (1.2 according to the README) in apps/plugins 07.22.18 # ok 07.22.26 # I think I'll use the native APIs 07.22.33 # what I'm porting is not hard to divorce from SDL 07.44.23 Join berber7 [0] (~berber@v2202101107577140883.nicesrv.de) 07.47.37 Join pookie [0] (~pookie@snf-137798.vm.okeanos.grnet.gr) 07.47.38 Join funman_ [0] (~fun@chui-pas.net) 07.51.18 Join Xeha_ [0] (~Xeha@dynamic-82-220-88-142.ftth.solnet.ch) 07.52.27 Quit berber (*.net *.split) 07.52.27 Quit Xeha (*.net *.split) 07.52.27 Quit olspookishmagus (*.net *.split) 07.52.27 Quit funman (*.net *.split) 07.52.27 Quit globalc (*.net *.split) 07.52.28 Quit dys (*.net *.split) 07.52.28 Nick berber7 is now known as berber (~berber@v2202101107577140883.nicesrv.de) 07.52.29 Nick Xeha_ is now known as Xeha (~Xeha@dynamic-82-220-88-142.ftth.solnet.ch) 07.53.13 Join cockroach [0] (~blattodea@user/cockroach) 08.41.45 Quit _bilgus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.47.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.50.35 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@ool-18e4ebfe.dyn.optonline.net) 09.50.06 Quit nihilazo (Quit: Leaving) 09.54.43 Join _bilgus [0] (~bilgus@162.154.213.134) 10.36.20 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 10.36.40 Join nihilazo [0] (~nihilazo@2607:f298:5:101d:f816:3eff:fe1a:29a3) 10.37.14 # when the graphics api docs at https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GraphicsAPI say that the foreground color on color devices is a "packed RGB value", what format is that in? 10.41.20 # nvm, found LCD_RGBPACK 10.44.07 # <_bilgus> nihilazo, its probably a bit deep but should have everything you need in the lua source rocklib_image does a bunch of image stuff 10.44.35 # k 10.44.58 # <_bilgus> it also has generation scripts that might be helpful setting up your eventual env 10.45.52 # I'm writing in C rather than lua 10.45.57 # although maybe I'm a bit confused here 10.46.15 # <_bilgus> the source is in C and perl 10.47.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.47.44 # ah ok 10.49.28 # <_bilgus> as for aquiring the framebuffer lus still has the old way -- new way has a way to pass your own display buffer if needed 10.49.36 # <_bilgus> lua* 10.50.04 # oh, how can you pass your own display buffer? 10.50.11 # that seems like it might be useful to me 10.50.50 Join Skyrider [0] (~Skyrider@v220200567215119438.goodsrv.de) 10.52.59 # <_bilgus> I don't have time to write it up ATM but here is the original commit https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/2811 10.53.17 # I see most people/channels have moved on from freenode, heh. 10.54.34 # <_bilgus> https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/2811/31/apps/plugins/imageviewer/imageviewer.c#512 10.55.11 # <_bilgus> there is the basic idea, this one references the builtin buffer but you can see the mechanism 10.57.18 # <_bilgus> ah test_viewports.c has a full example 11.59.36 # thanks 12.13.13 # Can someone with a clue take a look at g#1009 and tell me if it's worth trying to update to the new API?? 12.13.16 # 3Gerrit review #1009 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/1009 : 3Add USB Audio 1.0 support (EXPERIMENTAL) by Amaury Pouly 12.42.04 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@ip5f5abcae.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 12.47.42 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 13.10.30 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@2a01cb04012c0900597371ec60bab958.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.56.38 Quit cockroach (Quit: leaving) 14.23.18 Quit JanC (Remote host closed the connection) 14.23.31 Join JanC [0] (~janc@user/janc) 14.29.42 # what's the cheapest rockbox device to get that has a color LCD 14.30.05 # for the sake of testing my plugin on a hardware device with color (my main player, an x3, is 1-bit) 14.31.19 # sansa? 14.31.28 # I'm looking at a fuze+ on ebay right now that is £28 14.31.37 # but I'm not sure if there are others to be had cheaper 14.31.56 # check fuse or clip too 14.32.33 # the clip isn't LCD is it? 14.32.34 # it's text 14.33.12 # fuze+ are coming up a lot cheaper than normal fuze (probably because the fuze+ is a bit crappy) 14.34.19 # is it crappy for real? 14.34.37 # nihilazo: clip+ is lcd 14.35.13 # fuze+ is goo iit's probably cheaper because it was discontinued more recently 14.36.22 # paulcarroty: well I had one for a couple years and the touch on it sucks 14.36.29 # the interface is crappy 14.36.31 # the rest is ok 14.36.59 # the entire reason I upgraded to an xduoo x3 was because of the good tactile buttons on it, and my previous clip+ dying 14.47.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.58.00 Join skipwich [0] (~skipwich@user/skipwich) 15.03.56 Quit nihilazo (Quit: Leaving) 15.20.52 # <_bilgus> the fuze+ has nice hardware limited by the touch interface and cheap face plastic 15.21.23 # <_bilgus> I do most of my sim stuff in the fuze+ well sim 15.23.13 # <_bilgus> chris_s logs I have a patch that will probably make a few of your patches not rebase properly, I'll do the legwork if so.. 15.31.10 Quit munkis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.33.25 Join munkis [0] (~mendel_mu@ool-ae2cb218.dyn.optonline.net) 16.13.50 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. 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