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14.57.45 #       <Someone> Any way to make a rock box native using raspberry pi pico?
14.58.58 #       <Someone> I have very little experience, but would be happy for a simple functional thing! 
14.59.24 #       <Someone> And it will for sure be cheaper then buying a new Sansa clip!
15.00.25 #       <Someone> The pico is like $4? Add a sound thing, tiny screen, battery, printed case... And sw
15.00.33 #       <PaulFertser> Someone: it was discussed recently: not enough RAM
15.00.51 #       <Someone> 😭
15.02.09 #       <PaulFertser> Someone: are you happy with your sansa?
15.02.22 #       <Someone> How much ram is needed? The zero has like 512?
15.03.11 #       <Someone> I liked my Sansa, but she had a terrible, untimely death!
15.04.29 #       <spork> 2MB
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15.06.38 #       <Someone> So the zero has 512 MB...
15.10.06 #       <spork> you asked about the nano
15.10.28 #       <spork> either way, there is no rockbox for such devices at this time
15.10.50 #       <spork> there could be, but then someone has to put in the effort
15.12.21 #       <Someone> Any way to help/encourage something? I'm not very k
15.13.05 #       <PaulFertser> Someone: unlikely. If you're ok with sansa clip quality just get another one.
15.14.46 #       <braewoods> 256k of RAM isn't nearly enough
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15.15.44 #       <braewoods> we could probably get by with less than 32MB but this is way too little
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15.18.02 #       <somebodyelse> The zero has 512MB. And it goes up from there
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17.41.15 #       <speachy> Someone/somebodyelse:  The RPi Pico is built around a microcontroller, and has ~256KB RAM.
17.43.05 #       <speachy> (with a Cortex-M0+ running at 133MHz) -- whereas the rest of the family has at least an ARM11 processor running at least at 600MHz, 512MB of RAM, and so forth.
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18.05.30 #       <braewoods> speachy: are 3D printed cases any good? i was thinking those might work for prototyping.
18.06.08 #       <speachy> nothing wrong with 'em, though fine detail doesn't always work
18.06.54 #       <braewoods> ah
18.07.58 #       <braewoods> i'm considering looking at the SDL port in the future. i was thinking integration with native Linux stack might be helpful for future ports if we're going to be running as a Linux application; could be like XBMC in a sense
18.08.26 #       <braewoods> oh wait it's called Kodi today
18.09.12 #       <braewoods> but probably not a bad idea to port to the newer SDL library
18.15.28 #       <speachy> SDL1->2 isn't much of a PITA, given that we don't do anything complicated.
18.15.38 #       <speachy> main difference for us would be in how we set up the display window.
18.16.55 #       <braewoods> i see
18.17.04 #       <braewoods> i still think the switch is a good idea in the long run though
18.17.23 #       <braewoods> it also gives us stuff like wayland support
18.17.41 #       <braewoods> gradually replacing X11
18.18.23 #       <braewoods> not sure if that benefits us much beyond retaining compatibility
18.28.02 #       <speachy> SDL always insulated us from X11 directly, but yeah.
18.28.44 #       <speachy> (SDL2's display API is different than SDL1 -- it's more of a display list approach that can benefit from acceleration vs what is essentially just a dumb framebuffer plus GL bolted onto the side)
18.46.12 #       <speachy> ...we could in theory map our viewport API over to SDL2 natively.
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