--- Log for 22.12.122 Server: lithium.libera.chat Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: rb-logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 26 days and 12 hours ago 00.00.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.00.16 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 02.01.16 Quit CH23_M (Remote host closed the connection) 02.01.31 Join CH23_M [0] (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 02.06.17 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.22.58 Quit hexadecagram (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) 02.35.17 Join melmothX [0] (~marco@amusewiki/marco) 02.40.10 Join hexadecagram [0] (~acc@user/hexadecagram) 03.02.03 Join jssfr [0] (~jssfr@lysithea.sotecware.net) 03.09.58 # hey there o/ 03.10.16 # I've been using rockbox for more than a decade now (on various different devices) and I'd just like to say thanks again :) 03.11.43 # the thing y'all here made has been accompanying me through approximately half my life now and it's always been such a great source of pleasure and happiness. 03.12.02 # all the best to you, enjoy the holidays if that applies to you! 03.46.41 # (also, the rockbox compressor is the only compressor which doesn't get annoying to listen to; I spent a few hours the other day to understand how it works to replicate it using easyeffects on my computers :)) 04.00.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.00.18 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 07.14.57 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.26.19 Quit CH23_M (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.26.30 Join CH23_M [0] (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 08.00.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.10.02 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@2600:4040:a992:a300:cd0c:c4ad:30aa:9376) 09.08.03 Quit hexadecagram (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) 09.11.14 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 09.23.45 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@tunnel658658-pt.tunnel.tserv12.mia1.ipv6.he.net) 09.23.45 Quit speachy (Changing host) 09.23.45 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) 09.23.45 Mode "#rockbox +v speachy" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.libera.chat) 09.25.33 Join hexadecagram [0] (~acc@user/hexadecagram) 09.53.59 Quit CH23_M (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.54.52 Join CH23_M [0] (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 10.00.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.17.16 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet.math.uwaterloo.ca) 10.52.59 Quit CH23_M (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.53.31 Join CH23_M [0] (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 12.00.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.10.20 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 13.10.30 # sup 13.12.37 #  i have an ipod classic, I have gotten rockbox working if I format it from the bootloader but then itunes doesn't see it properly. now I have the apple firmware working correctly and windows can see it fine in disk mode and whatever, but the rockbox bootloader indicates no partition found 13.12.59 # and windows offers to format the disk 13.13.35 # I have replaced the  hard drive in this unit and it's my first time with this kind of ipod so maybe I'm doing something wrong 13.19.13 Quit dandu3 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.26.29 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 13.37.14 Quit dandu3 (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) 13.37.25 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 13.43.41 Quit dandu3 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.44.38 # that's the 6/7g ipod (ie what apple sold as the "classic")? 13.56.49 Join alex85 [0] (~alex@p5b0fbe19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.00.11 # Hi all, my name is Alex and I am new to rockbox! I am an artist working with an old iPod 6G and got rockbox installed on it. I want to create a custom plugin and already made some test which worked successfully. However, in the next step I would like to create a custom hardware accessory for the ipod. I know that the ipod 6g aap has not been 14.00.12 # accessed yet (is that right?) but I was wondering what the limits are. I am looking for someone who might be up for supporting me in developing this. I have a budget available and would like to contribute the resulting knowledge of my project to the rockbox community. 14.00.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.02.37 # it's my understanding that both the serial and usb IAP protocol are documented. I believe Rockbox has a pretty completre implemetnation of the serial protocol. 14.03.29 # but the USB protocol remains untouched, as is playing audio out via USB. 14.48.11 Quit alex85 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.09.15 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@152.117.104.235) 15.43.50 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 15.44.36 # @speachy I think so. its the one with 1.1.2 firmware. might be 5g? 15.48.41 Quit dandu3 (Client Quit) 15.48.52 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 15.52.38 # if you look up the model number engraved on the back it'll tell you what model it is. 16.00.05 # a1238, so yea 6th 16.00.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.01.52 # i got the drive on ebay and it's a similar toshiba drive with different model. I don't see how that would change anything seeing as when I format it from rockbox it's fine, but still. 16.02.03 # I must be doing something wrong 16.04.19 # in disk management I see an 89 mb partition and the rest is listed as RAW. 16.04.34 # when unplugging from USB i get a panic 16.04.43 # mount:0 16.05.02 # pc:22021CAC sp:08800B38 16.05.04 # bt end 16.09.01 # HDD is TOSHIBA MK8025GAL 16.12.14 # https://arstechnica.com/civis/threads/host-protected-area-toshiba-mk8025gas-laptop-drive.402822/ 16.12.36 # i wonder if this could be a possibilty 16.14.45 # I am doing this on a ARM windows laptop too lol so this has been a fun experiance if anything, fun as in every single thing seems to be working, even the DFU tools are 100% functional which I didn't expect 16.16.22 # I used rufus to do an initial format while in disk mode, cuz information is somewhat sparse about how to replace the HDD properly, and iTunes being an unsupporting liar didn't help 16.23.07 Join alex24 [0] (~alex@p5b0fbe19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.28.15 Quit alex24 (Quit: Connection closed) 16.31.24 Join mixfix41 [0] (~sdenynine@user/mixfix41) 16.34.04 Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.40.36 Join amachronic [0] (~amachroni@user/amachronic) 16.45.39 Quit dandu3 (Quit: Connection closed) 16.47.46 Quit Serke_ (Remote host closed the connection) 17.20.16 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision b96b7640de, 303 builds, 8 clients. 17.21.06 Quit othello7 (Remote host closed the connection) 17.43.03 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 1367 seconds. 17.43.06 # Build Server message: 3Revision b96b7640de result: All green 17.48.35 Join dandu3 [0] (~dandu3@modemcable162.152-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) 17.50.58 # _bilgus_ i've enhanced multiboot with drive and partition checks (g#4949) 17.51.01 # 3Gerrit review #4949 at https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/4949 : 3multiboot: Add v1 boot protocol by Aidan MacDonald 17.52.48 # will this help my bootloader find it's partitions :'( 17.53.33 # no its for the benefit of sansas mainly 17.54.05 # i was mainly joking, but do you know how to check this? seems like you might have some knowledge of disks and such 17.54.33 # i have access to a linux pc 17.54.56 # i'm not that familiar with ipods 17.55.00 # I see 17.58.12 # <_bilgus_> amachronic, nice! I've since freed up some space in the bootloader since multiboot was pushed if we are updating bootloaders I might revisit it as well 17.58.41 # <_bilgus_> I had a bug fix already that I found last few weeks 18.00.04 # <_bilgus_> dandu __builtin is our residen ipod guy along with a few others who pop in time to time 18.00.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.00.51 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 34a092a997, 303 builds, 8 clients. 18.03.37 # <_bilgus_> hactar|ant or CH23_M if around might have a bit of insight as well 18.03.54 # hey 18.04.16 # thanks 18.04.25 Nick CH231 is now known as CH23 (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 18.05.05 # ah my Sansa was sadly lost, i'm using an iPod classic exclusively now 18.05.26 # <_bilgus_> dandu3, that error on USB unplug might be the same error being discussed on the forum 18.06.06 # you'll find it in the couch, 3 years after you'd already bought a new one. at least, that's what happened to my isesamo 18.06.16 # I didn't check the forums actually lol 18.06.18 # let me see 18.06.26 # <_bilgus_> is your issue just that you can't get the fw on? 18.06.36 # classic as in 6/7g? 18.06.45 # yeah 18.06.48 #  6g 18.06.57 # it says no partitions found 18.07.03 # hrm. i've only rockboxed a 6/7g once and that was for a friend, i don't own one 18.07.09 # mine are all earlier 18.07.17 # i remember the dfu thing being annoying though 18.07.19 # and it shows 2 partitions with the main one lists as being RAW 18.07.28 # it works just fine in the apple firmware 18.08.00 # and I've formatted it from within the bootloader and that worked 18.08.22 # yeah not my area of expertise sorry (not sure i even have an area of expertise, i just have a lot of old, modded ipods) 18.08.34 # lol 18.08.34 # does it still have the hdd or did you iflash? 18.08.40 # i installed a new hdd 18.09.05 # I might be doing something wrong with parititions and such 18.09.12 # <_bilgus_> so after getting it formatted does windows still show it as being a RAW volume? 18.09.26 # if I format it from rockbox it works in rockbozx 18.09.42 # but IIRC then it showed up as raw in the apple disk mode 18.09.52 # <_bilgus_> yeah I vaguely remember this being an issue 18.10.05 # <_bilgus_> I don't ipod either but give me a minute 18.10.14 # there's also an 89 mb partition which I guess might be the apple fqw 18.10.17 # fw 18.10.18 # ? 18.11.25 # there's a non 0 chance that I just need to format it now in windows and then both would work 18.12.43 # because I didn't get the apple firmware working until after I think, and I cleaned the whole disk with diskpart a couple times trying to get it to work 18.14.18 # or idk, i'm just confused. it's fat32 and I don't know why it can't properly recognize it lol... 18.21.52 # <_bilgus_> well it always has a hidden partition on the ipods maybe its just backwards 18.22.19 # <_bilgus_> FW I was reffering to the rockbox install ( part after the bootloader) 18.23.37 # well the rockbox install is there but if it can't get no partitions then I guess that's not worth much 18.24.49 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 1438 seconds. 18.24.51 # Build Server message: 3Revision 34a092a997 result: All green 18.25.01 # should the partition be hidden when looking from the rockbox bootloader too» 18.26.23 # it's listed as hidden, nvm 18.28.00 Quit speachy (Quit: WeeChat 3.6) 18.28.26 # <_bilgus_> https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,53879.msg248644.html#msg248644 18.29.01 # <_bilgus_> I can't find the post i'm thinking of but if this works for iflash installs it should work for you^ 18.30.06 # hmm 18.31.26 # <_bilgus_> otherwise if in a linux vm I can probably help you but windows and ipod are both 4 letter words at this point 18.31.51 # nah i have a real linux pc 18.33.16 Quit amachronic (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 18.37.35 Quit dconrad (Remote host closed the connection) 18.39.13 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@152.117.104.235) 18.43.03 # brb 18.43.09 Quit dandu3 (Quit: Connection closed) 18.43.43 Quit dconrad (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.43.56 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@2600:4040:a992:a300:3d3a:d83a:9a96:ba44) 18.56.15 Join othello7 [0] (~Thunderbi@pool-100-36-133-223.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 18.59.14 # oh i misinterpreted that thing, i thought there was something with multiboot on sansas 19.02.51 # <_bilgus_> no its ipod 19.03.29 # <_bilgus_>  6g 19.03.29 # <_bilgus_> it says no partitions found 19.03.29 # <_bilgus_> hrm. i've only rockboxed a 6/7g once and that was for a friend, i don't own one 19.03.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK _bilgus_ 19.03.29 # <_bilgus_> mine are all earlier 19.03.29 # <_bilgus_> i remember the dfu thing being annoying though 19.03.30 *** Alert Mode level 1 19.03.30 # <_bilgus_> and it shows 2 partitions with the main one lists as being RAW 19.03.32 # <_bilgus_> it works just fine in the apple firmware 19.03.34 # <_bilgus_> and I've formatted it from within the bootloader and that worked 19.03.55 # <_bilgus_> hell even i managed to miss hactag interacting already 19.04.04 # <_bilgus_> hactar 19.05.22 # i just took the µSD card in slot 1 of my iflash quad and it has 2 partitions plus 'unallocated'. partition 1 is 24MiB, partition 2 is 45.81GiB, 'unallocated' is 137.51GiB. I don't believe that is actually unallocated space. 19.07.02 # µSD card 2 looks fully unallocated in gparted but is not, so these cards are basically individually not readable. 19.10.17 # okay so they have issues where if they format it from a computer, the 3 different boot modes will not always work, right? 19.10.57 # i have a second iflash quad, hopefully a µSD card too. i'll try some stuff 19.11.06 # <_bilgus_> https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64562 19.11.36 # <_bilgus_> https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54393.msg251338.html#msg251338 19.11.55 # <_bilgus_> sorry I clicked on the name instead of the post 19.13.31 *** Alert Mode OFF 19.13.40 # oh sweet, i can do this. found a 32gb µSD card 19.17.26 # <_bilgus_> nice ipod has a need for documentaion 19.17.56 # well the manual restore page is not made for the iPod Classic, that much I can tell ya. no MBR for it there. 19.20.11 # https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=53363.0 19.20.54 # seems i'm not the first who's journey ends here. I hope dandu3 will come back, I'd like to know what they've done so far 19.25.59 # just formatting the µSD usinf "sudo mkfs.fat -I -F 32 -S 2048 /dev/mmcblk0" and then plugging it into the iPod shows me the rockbox bootloader with the message that no partition is found, entering usb mode, plug usb cable. 19.27.03 # shows as fat32 in linux when connected to USB 19.32.59 Join bilgus_ph [0] (~bilgus_ph@172.56.28.202) 19.35.01 Quit mixfix41 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.35.28 # Amachronic can we get rid of crc32 in bootloaders v2? 19.36.14 # Fnv should be good enough and it would free up some space assuming there are no other users 19.37.11 # Ch23 there are way to reserve some space at the beginning of the drive 19.37.50 # is it only about space, nothing needs to be there? 19.45.28 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@152.117.104.235) 19.45.30 # yper parted -l 19.45.36 # Type 19.46.26 # Does it say anything about the disk being removable? 19.48.28 Quit bilgus_ph (Quit: Connection closed) 19.48.41 Join bilgus_ph [0] (~bilgus_ph@172.56.28.202) 19.49.56 Quit dconrad (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.50.27 # i formatted again but via usb(so with the iPod connected instead of just the µSD card) and now it says 'Error! Can't load rockbox.ipod: file not found' 19.50.39 # i'll try rbutility 19.51.12 # you should be able to use mkpart on it and set the start of the drive as starting at 90mb 19.51.20 # Or 24mb 19.56.34 # right now it seems to be stuck in DFU mode... 19.56.55 # https://phoenixnap.com/kb/linux-create-partition 19.57.06 # Something like this 19.57.55 # They appear to have fdisk options too depending on what you have already 20.00.07 # Basically start your partition with empty space msdos partition type most likely then format the drive fat32 the bigger one 20.00.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.41 # i have rockbox running now 20.03.22 # Do tell.. 20.03.25 # booting to default apple partition says 'restore using itunes' 20.03.53 # Is that with the empty space 20.04.09 # no, one sec i'll tell what i did exactly 20.05.09 # If you can make an image of your working drive with the iPod stuff you can probably make a restore image 20.05.37 # well i formatted the whole ipod to a single fat32 partition via USB/gparted, rebooted and reconnected. mounted it, then just followed the steps in the rockbox utility to install bootloader and rockbox.ipod. finished that, rebooted, rockbox. 20.06.19 # Oh I think you still need that empty space for the ipod 20.06.41 # Does it match your other one? 20.06.53 # I think rockbox is less anal 20.07.28 # most likely not, but didn't dandu3 say that his og firmware worked? 20.07.59 # I suspect it turned the empty space into the hidden one 20.08.18 # probably, yes. 20.08.18 # But I don't do iPods so SWAG 20.08.36 # they're fun, you totally should! 20.08.55 # Iits far to large to survive me 20.09.09 # specifically the 6th gen nano since i just bought one of those and it has no rockbox support as of yet :P 20.10.11 # Ive dropped stuff down drains a fuze and a clipzip both survive today the fuze needs a battery 20.10.54 # well well well. i rebooted to the og apple fw (which is not there) and then to diskmode. now when i try to get back into rockbox it says no partition found again 20.11.25 # Yes sounds like my hypothesis might be right 20.11.46 # Like I said Scientific Wild Ass Guess 20.12.51 # i'll do a reinstall, boot into rockbox, reboot into rockbox, then check µSD. then boot into og apple, reboot into rockbox, check µSD, then boot into diskmode, reboot into rockbox, and check µSD 20.13.18 # I think I'll solder a 18650 or a 17700 or something to my fuze plus maybe I can get a buddy to make me a bigger back for it 20.13.42 # why not pluck a few e-cigarettes from the streets? 20.13.47 # free batteries! 20.14.36 # I figure a week on the fuze would do better with a bigger battery 20.14.37 # a 64mb partition appeared out of nowhere. i wonder if diskmode or the apple og firmware added that 20.15.13 # Probably did if so now partition the remaining and format to f32 20.16.41 # if so, that basically means steps can be bypassed 20.16.58 # Can you make an image onice out get it done that should be an easy way to replicate 20.17.29 # of the whole µSD or just the first partition of 64MiB 20.17.45 # That's similar to how I made Sansaid recovery images and then just did a compressed img 20.17.53 # Sansa 20.18.28 # Probably the whole thing it'll be big but then you compress ends up a few mb 20.18.57 # what size does rockbox __need__? 20.19.15 # I have a 512MB µSD card I could use otherwise 20.19.44 # Oh likely 12mbish but you want w/e apple wants or larger 20.19.54 # It should work 20.20.23 # why have a 2TB iPod when you can have a 512MB one :P 20.20.55 # Hell yeah mamess it faster 20.21.06 # what exactly do you want in the disk image? a full restore from iTunes, or just the one i have now, or with rockbox installed? 20.21.26 # You can tweak it to allow different sizes of a secondary 20.21.59 # I did with rub installed to make it easy to get up well the bootloader 20.22.10 # aight 20.22.12 # Rockbox* 20.23.04 # Then the have a minimum viable way to do more 20.25.02 Quit bilgus_ph (Quit: Connection closed) 20.26.43 # <_bilgus_> sorry my phone really sucks to irc on 20.28.12 # i keep mine always connected but only because i don't have a bouncer yet 20.28.22 # <_bilgus_> I wonder do we have any targets that are 32 bit rather than 24 bit? 20.28.34 # <_bilgus_> display size 20.28.52 # can i make a disk image over usb in rockbox boot loader usb mode? 20.29.07 # <_bilgus_> probabably 20.29.19 # i am not sure how cross compatible a direct µSD disk image would be 20.29.26 # <_bilgus_> it depends if rockbox blocks the access 20.29.39 # i mean, rockbox in this mode is not loaded 20.29.47 # <_bilgus_> ch23 if you make a compressed image I can open it and edit if need be 20.30.21 # <_bilgus_> with the clip+ and clipzip I had to expose the beginning 20.30.56 # <_bilgus_> there is a special fw patch on gerrit which I should probably update 20.31.05 # <_bilgus_> but thats for the sansa 20.31.54 # <_bilgus_> yeah rockbox has devices with XRGB8888 20.33.35 # <_bilgus_> i'm looking into QOI Quite Ok Image Format i'd like to make it our internal image format well a version tht is device agnostic 20.34.06 # <_bilgus_> using fbdata instead of char8 20.55.29 # _bilgus_, do you happen to be on telegram so i can get you the file? 20.55.54 # <_bilgus_> no i don't have that how big is it? 20.56.03 # 60mb 20.57.02 # i can try through irc otherwise 21.22.32 Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@2603-8080-b200-7b02-77cb-6304-f9db-dda1.res6.spectrum.com) 21.37.00 Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.45.47 Join dconrad [0] (~dconrad@152.117.104.235) 21.50.32 Quit dconrad (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.00.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.27.16 Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@47-186-81-17.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net) 22.54.44 Quit CH23_M (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.55.41 Join CH23_M [0] (~CH23@revspace/participant/ch23) 22.57.53 # For those who are interested in weird stuff: the iPod Classic and Rockbox work with 512MB total disk space lol 23.37.11 Quit m01 (Quit: Konversation terminated.) 23.39.26 Join m01 [0] (~quassel@vps-b172b88b.vps.ovh.net)