--- Log for 31.01.123 Server: calcium.libera.chat Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: rb-logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 6 days ago 00.11.17 Quit Maxdamantus (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.12.11 Join Maxdamantus [0] (~Maxdamant@user/maxdamantus) 00.22.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.32 Quit jacobk (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.38.03 Join jacobk [0] (~quassel@64.189.201.150) 01.45.21 Quit pixelma (Quit: .) 01.45.21 Quit amiconn (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 01.47.50 Join pixelma [0] (marianne@p200300ea872b5d00305e95fffec66ff3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.47.52 Join amiconn [0] (jens@p200300ea872b5d00305e95fffec66ff3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.11.29 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.22.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.19 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~LambdaCal@2600:4040:aed7:e400:2c69:cbd0:52d2:cda4) 02.57.28 # was there not a 'play' and 'play shuffled' option in the context menu of the playlist catalogue before ? 02.57.54 # i used that all the time but cannot find it anymore after upgrading to yesterday's dev build 04.22.08 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 05.18.15 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Remote host closed the connection) 05.47.02 Join chris_s [0] (~chris_s@ip-095-223-074-162.um35.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 05.47.33 # spork (logs): Should be in the "Playing Next..." submenu: https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-730004.4.3 05.53.17 # WACOMalt (logs): I've noticed people recommend against using Sandisk cards with iFlash adapters. Don't ask me why, I haven't tried them... Samsung seems to work well ime, though 06.02.26 Quit chris_s (Quit: Connection closed) 06.22.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.50.27 # 'playing next' only has 'play', not 'play shuffled' 06.51.26 # this is on a shanling q1 but i doubt other players will be different. that i can check though 06.51.47 # same on fiio m3k 06.52.09 # playlist catalogue -> play next -> only 'play' available 06.52.38 # that was with playback stopped 06.53.12 # whiule playing i have 'play next', 'add', 'play last' and 'play' 06.54.25 # exactly that screenshot in your link 06.57.09 Join chris_s [0] (~chris_s@ip-095-223-074-162.um35.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 06.58.34 # Ah sorry, just remembered the default had changed. You need to enable "Show Shuffled Adding Options" (as described in the first note from that link 07.00.18 # https://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1480008.1 07.03.00 Quit chris_s (Quit: Connection closed) 07.14.06 # thank you 07.14.12 # do you remember why that default was changed ? 07.17.47 # though i suppose 'why' does not really matter 07.28.11 Join chris_s [0] (~chris_s@ip-095-223-074-162.um35.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 07.32.43 # just to make the menu a bit more approachable by default, with the expectation that a majority of users would not use the option (same as the Queue options) – which may or may not be a correct assumption... :D 07.35.11 Quit chris_s (Quit: Connection closed) 07.48.02 # <_bilgus_> that seems like a sily reason to have another setting 07.48.16 # <_bilgus_> silly* 07.49.43 # i think any assumption or generalization about rockbox users is risky 07.49.46 # <_bilgus_> the settings are what users find unapproachable in my experience 07.51.47 # there are lot of settings 07.52.07 Quit gartral (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.53.47 Join chris_s [0] (~chris_s@ip-095-223-074-162.um35.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 07.57.20 # I'm not a fan of the many Settings either. That particular menu used to contain a huge number of items by default though. I'd consider at least the Queue options to be somewhat esoteric...: https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/5029/1/manual/rockbox_interface/images/ss-playlist-menu-128x96x16.png 07.57.28 # Having said that, I don't feel strongly about *what* should be the default 07.58.09 Quit chris_s (Client Quit) 07.58.20 Join chris_s [0] (~chris_s@ip-095-223-074-162.um35.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 07.58.53 # Not sure what the solution is 08.01.14 # <_bilgus_> me either 08.02.54 # <_bilgus_> I was thinking about a learning mode the other day like it starts out with all options and slowly prunes them 08.03.52 # <_bilgus_> you've never used these options so they were moved to the other settings list or something 08.04.32 # <_bilgus_> that or a advanced menu but thats probably just a bunch of code for yet another unapproachable menu 08.06.31 # <_bilgus_> I guess hovering over a menu item could have a voice prompt help item 08.06.47 # <_bilgus_> ship it as a default voice that the user can later disable 08.07.34 # <_bilgus_> but then we have more languages/prompts to worry about 08.22.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.31.11 Quit Piece_Maker (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.34.16 Join Piece_Maker [0] (~eddie@cpc95736-bolt17-2-0-cust330.10-3.cable.virginm.net) 09.39.41 Quit Piece_Maker (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.40.59 Join Piece_Maker [0] (~eddie@cpc95736-bolt17-2-0-cust330.10-3.cable.virginm.net) 09.53.20 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@tunnel658658-pt.tunnel.tserv12.mia1.ipv6.he.net) 09.53.21 Quit speachy (Changing host) 09.53.21 Join speachy [0] (~speachy@rockbox/developer/speachy) 09.53.21 Mode "#rockbox +v speachy" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.libera.chat) 09.54.53 # WACOMalt (logs): You didn't mention what build you were using with the mini1g and the iFlash adapter. Make sure it's a semi-recent daily build instead of the "stable" 3.15 release. 09.55.31 # ... which reminds me, we really should cut a new release, if only to lessen these support requests. 09.56.04 # as a random aside, would there be any interest in a minimalistic pastebin-type thing running on rockbox.org? 10.22.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.00.03 Quit blbro[m] (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) 11.02.29 Quit sam_d (Quit: Bye) 11.05.47 Join sam_d [0] (~sam@user/sam-d/x-8933526) 11.53.54 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.22.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.48.57 Join lebellium [0] (~lebellium@2a01cb040109a6000479d821a9fa28df.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.51.22 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@user/advcomp2019) 13.10.12 Quit fourHZ (Quit: Client closed) 13.11.09 Join fourHZ [0] (~fourHZ@92-52-40-121.dynamic.orange.sk) 13.16.34 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.22.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.33 Quit chris_s (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.45.14 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@user/advcomp2019) 14.49.19 Quit fourHZ (Quit: Client closed) 16.22.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.17.49 Quit lebellium (Quit: Leaving) 17.45.37 Quit kugel_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.46.05 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@77.22.70.153) 18.22.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.02 Join massiveH [0] (~massiveH@2600:4040:a992:a300:f51c:7547:dba:2f8e) 20.15.51 # <_bilgus_> wouldn't that just open us up to spam and potential liability? 20.22.27 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 21.11.12 Quit massiveH (Quit: Leaving) 22.22.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"