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08.27.46 #       <speachy> brae90820:  the old ipods can play flac in realtime no problem, but sample rate conversion is kinda expensive, especially if you hav eother processing stuff turned on (eg eq, haas surround, etc).
08.28.34 #       <speachy> and if you're not playing the same file on both OSes, then you're not actually comparing the relative performance of each.
08.41.28 #       <buZz> its not even the same device
08.41.56 #       <buZz> as in, parts got replaced
08.42.42 #       <buZz> otoh, flac and even 'amac' (i assume thats some proprietary flacclone?) should not be more than 150kb/s to play (which is audioCD datarate)
08.42.48 #       <buZz> any hdd should read that just fine
08.43.09 #       <buZz> 150KB/s , sorry
08.43.14 #       <buZz> KiB/s even, i guess
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10.08.31 #       <speachy> it's not the raw compressed bitrate (up to a point); it's the amount of required processing.
10.09.56 #       <speachy> btw flac typically 50% of the uncompressed bitrate.  ie for CD quality audio, flacs are usually 705.6kb/s.
10.11.50 #       <speachy> (raw CD quality audio is 1.4Mbps)
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10.55.11 #       <chamlis> anybody have any experience/advice for replacing the battery in an m3k?
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12.50.32 #       <DVDCreep> Total new guy to this, but I want to fart around and try customizing a build for my iPod 5th. No specific reason, just for fun. I have the cross compiler set up  with WSL and I think I am ready to start poking around the source files. My question is, what, if anything can I delete from the source files that does not pertain to the ipod 5th gen
12.50.33 #       <DVDCreep> specifically. Sorry for the completely newbie  question, I am a new SAHP and have not messed with firmware stuff since the early 00s and motomgx on a Rokr EM30, so I thought this might be fun to do in my spare time. If anyone has a guide they can point me to or a search term that would narrow my searches down, I would highly appreciate it.
12.51.24 #       <speachy> everything is in the same source tree, files that aren't needed for any one target are not compiled.
12.51.53 #       <speachy> so there's not really any purpose to deleting stuff other than perhaps making full text searches of the source code easier.
12.53.53 #       <speachy> https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DocsIndex  <--- the section under "developers" seems like a good place to start.
12.53.57 #       <DVDCreep> Awesome! Thank you, I have not tried compiling yet so that was my concern.
12.54.41 #       <speachy> stuff under firmware is what interacts directly with the hardware.  Stuff under apps/ is all of the user-visible stuff that uses the hardware APIs.
12.55.19 #       <speachy> firmare/target/<foo> holds the individual ports.
12.57.57 #       <speachy> I will say it helps to have something specific you're trying to accomplish.  
12.59.40 #       <DVDCreep> Thats a lot of help, thank you. One thing I was hoping to accomplish on my own would be to disable the WPS completely and us a SBS that already displays basic info, like the terminaltwo theme and take a stab at modifying the solitaire controls to mimic the ipod version of the game.
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14.23.54 #       <rb-bluebot> Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 9ff308a589, 337 builds, 9 clients.
14.23.54 #       <rb-bluebot> 3Update multiple translations: by Solomon Peachy
14.29.38 #       <speachy> so let's see how the next commit lands.  :D
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14.35.50 #       <rb-bluebot> 3storage:  64-bit sector offsets by Solomon Peachy
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15.04.20 #       <rb-bluebot> 3Fix some of the red in 15e52374 by Solomon Peachy
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15.21.34 #       <rb-bluebot> Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 05354e1bef, 337 builds, 9 clients.
15.21.35 #       <rb-bluebot> 3Hopefully fix the remaining red from 15e52374 by Solomon Peachy
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15.29.19 #       <speachy> this 64-bit sector support comes at a ~3KB penalty for HDD-based players.  We can always disable it, where the penalty drops to ~300 bytes.
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15.38.35 #       <rb-bluebot> 3...fix more red from 15e52374 by Solomon Peachy
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16.11.53 #       <rb-bluebot> 3sim:  stub out volume_partition() for sim targets by Solomon Peachy
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16.47.39 #       <dconrad_phone> speachy: any action needed to transition to the 64bit sector offsets builds, or should it be seamless? should Just Work(tm)?
16.48.19 #       <speachy> it's enabled by default for all targets that use ATA storage or with HAVE_SDUC.
16.49.02 #       <speachy> (SDUC support is currently limited to "hey, this is an SDUC card!")
16.49.47 #       <speachy> so tl;dr:  it should JustWork(tm), with the caveat that >32bit still appears to be fundamentally untestable.
16.51.29 #       <speachy> s/that use ATA storage/with HAVE_LBA48/
16.52.24 #       <speachy> Individual partitions are still limited to 2TiB (on 512-byte sectors) due to FAT32.
16.53.01 #       <dconrad_phone> no formatting of drives needed or anything like that tho, thats good
16.53.08 #       <speachy> correct.
16.53.15 #       <dconrad_phone> good to know 👍
16.57.28 #       <speachy> if I could come up with a way to plug a regular SATA drive into an ipod4g or 5g or mini, it would simplify this a bunch..
16.58.50 #       <dconrad_phone> that sounds pretty wacky, I can picture a giant case back that dwarfs the actual ipod part haha
16.59.09 #       <dconrad_phone> requires wall power to run
16.59.45 #       <speachy> >2TB SSDs with a mSATA (or u.2 sata) interface are quite rare, apparently.
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17.30.00 #       <toxx> I try to resurrect an old Sansa Clip+. There is no sound but a clicking noise at ca 1Hz. 
17.30.39 #       <toxx> with Rockbox and Sansa firmware, so it is a hardware failure
17.31.31 #       <toxx> maybe someone knows that error. is it dead?
17.32.54 #       <toxx> or just some connection failure like the headphone jack?
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19.07.44 #       <_bilgus_> toxx, hard telling but sounds like a hardware failure probably bad solder connection somewhere
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22.37.18 #       <DVDCreep> Am I looking in the right area to prevent the now playing screen from popping up when I select a song? Would like for it to stay in the song selection menu when a track is started. I am looking in Rockbox/apps/gui.c and this bit on line 559
22.37.19 #       <DVDCreep> * display the wps on entering or restoring */
22.37.19 #       <DVDCreep> static void gwps_enter_wps(bool theme_enabled)
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22.37.20 #       <DVDCreep> {
22.37.20 #       <DVDCreep>     struct gui_wps *gwps;
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22.37.21 #       <DVDCreep>     struct screen *display;
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22.37.21 #       <DVDCreep>     if (theme_enabled)
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22.37.22 #       <DVDCreep>         restore_theme();
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22.37.22 #       <DVDCreep>     FOR_NB_SCREENS(i)
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22.37.23 #       <DVDCreep>     {
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22.37.23 #       <DVDCreep>         gwps = skin_get_gwps(WPS, i);
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22.37.24 #       <DVDCreep>         display = gwps->display;
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22.37.24 #       <DVDCreep>         display->scroll_stop();
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22.37.25 #       <DVDCreep>         /* Update the values in the first (default) viewport - in case the user
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22.37.25 #       <DVDCreep>            has modified the statusbar or colour settings */
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