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Subject: Re: Getting rid of that damn noise.

Re: Getting rid of that damn noise.

From: Joachim Schiffer <>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:20:20 +0100

> The 10k resistor (on the high side of T3 and the 34063 supply) seems to be
> the current limiter for the battery charger.

Oops. First mistake. Thank you :-)
It's a 0.47 Ohm Resistor. You're right, 10K is a bit high...
Sorry, as I said, there might still be some Bugs :-)

Second mistake, I found: note 2.) must be named note 1.) on U13C and U13D.
By the way, this is quite interessting. Two outputs of this device are connected
to GND, to inputs are left unconnected.

> BTW: with no direct feedback from the switcher output to comp, there is
> absolutely no voltage regulation; the switcher is being used more as a
> current source than a voltage source.

I hope this is not because there is a connection missing...
But I didn't find additional connections in this area.

Because of the behaviour of the recorder, when turning off the power,
i think there is also something missing in the part of the circuit around
Q11, Q12, C14. I think C14 is responsible for the delay when powering
off the unit, but there has to be at least an additional resistor, if it was
that way. But i didn't find one...

As I said, the schematics are only almost complete ;-)

Regarding the noise, it's still there when you turn off the backlight, and
even if I disconnect the LCD completely. I think the power generation
(neg. voltage for LCD) is done by the built-in driver chip itself.
Otherwise I can't explain all the caps, which are conneted to it.
So the power generation in the LCD can't be the trigger for that noise.

BTW, I have a simple solution to increase the signal to noise ratio ;-)
I have headphones with a volume regulator. When I turn the volume
down on the headphones an up on the player a bit, i can't hear the noise
anymore, even if i hear silent classical music.
So if nothing helps, i think, a modification of the output filters to reduce
the volume a bit, so that the volume of the player must be turned up a
little, would reduce the noice. In my opinion, the recorder is loud
(I know, the solution is a bit unprofessional, but it works for me ;-)

Received on 2001-12-28

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