From: Henri DAVID <hdavid_at_mail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:49:41 +0100

Hi all,

oh my god !!! GREAT work !!

I really love it, and I think it was time to deeply "RE-Think" the rockbox
interface.

-new icons are really nice looking
-the Sound menu is just Great !
-the Video Inverse selection is really useful


wishes and remarks:

general :

- I am not a big fan of Play/Pause and OFF act everywhere the same. but
maybe I have to get used to it ;)

- use left to exit a menu (to go back of one level I mean, as right Key is
used to enter a menu...). (yeah.... why is left not used while in menu??
;) )

- ON/F1/F3 would go back to Browser/WPS/Sound directly (while in a menu)
(and not back up of one level in the menu hierarchy as left Key is already
doing so).

- I really miss the QuickConfig screens that are available in the normal
Rockbox. I think it would be nice to display them after a long press (one
sec. or so) on F1 F2 F3 :
 .A long click on F1 would bring a sort of "context menu" :
delete/rename/record/createplaylist/editplaylist... while in Browser mode
and editID3/showID3/PichUp/PitchDown/ while in WPS.
 .A long click F2 would bring the General Setting quick Screen
(fileview,followplaylist, StatusBar)
 .A long click on F3 would Bring the Play Settings Quick Screen
(RepeatMode/ShuffleMode/resume/EqPresets)

(this would also remove the ON+Play and ON+F1 tricky shortcuts :) )


sound menu :

- I would prefer to have dB instead of %age for bass/Treble/loudness (make
more sense in my opinion)

- balance 50% should be 0 (centre) (more logical isn't it ?)

- I have the feeling that the volume control is way too sensitive when going
above 60. I actually prefer the oldschool one. more precise and easier to
use.

- the mini icon volume seems not to match the value showed the volume
slider. while the slider is at 47, the mini icon shows 0.

-I also liked the fact the original rockbox shows the volume as numerical
value in the status bar when changing it. it is missing it this release.


Henri

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se]On
> Behalf Of Joaquim Carvalho
> Sent: 19 February 2003 13:27
> To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> Subject: Re: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
>
>
> Hi,
> I put a new version up for download
> Changes:
> - pressing Enter for a longer time while browsing enters all
> folders and plays the first song. This is not a real folder
> play function but it's the best we have for now.
> - Numeric values on the sound settings screen
> as suggested by Roland
> Values end in 99 as there's not enough space do display 100
> Any further suggestions?
>
> Joaquim
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 01:40, roland wrote:
> > Hi Joaquim !
> >
> > Your changes are very very nice !
> > I like it - but I need to get used to the different key-mapping :)
> >
> > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders 5 + 2 bars
> > this is VERY cool !
> Thanx :)
>
> > The scrolling to the last 2 bars is a little bit "funny",
> though - actually
> > I think the display is big enough to hold all 7 bars on ONE screen.
> There wouldn't be enough space for Vol Bas Tre Bal Lou ...
> It'd have to be VoBaTrBlLo ...
> I don't use "Super Bass" or AVC as they sound bad to me and there's
> already too much AVC on most recordings.
>
> > Integrating some numerical represantation of the settings would
> be helpful,
> > too.
> I did that this morning. You can download the new version at the
> same address.
>
> > I think about this and will post my ideas in form of some "fake
> pics", if
> > somebody would
> > like this.
> That would be great.
>
> >
> > > - Linear volume setup
> > Is there an advantage/disadvantage of this ?
> All audio devices that I know off have linear perceived volume settings.
> In hardware they use Log variable resistors to do it, in software
> it should be much simpler.
> Is it the need to be different that makes rockbox people think
> otherwise?
>
> >
> > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > the music-note icon for mp3 files really looks good ! I like it.
> >
> > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > hey - this was a suggestion I made some time ago. thank you for
> implementing
> > !
> Thank you for the suggestion :)
>
> > http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-01/0164.shtml
> > What about extending inverted line, so that icons also being inverted ?
> > I find this would be more consequently !
> I started by doing it that way but it felt funny as I always started
> reading the text at the icon and my brain took a few millisecs to skip
> the "invalid character"
>
> >
> > > - More responsive keyboard
> > this is nice,anyway!
> >
> > thanks for your work !
> > I hope all the best of it will go into official rockbox release soon !
> > regards
> > Roland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joaquim Carvalho" <jdc_at_x64.com>
> > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:19 PM
> > Subject: Experimental new UI for the Recorder
> >
> >
> > > http://www.x64.com/public/ajbrec.ajz
> > >
> > > I made the a few last changes that make me 100% happy with the
> > > Recorder user interface. Please download, try and comment.
> > >
> > > Complete list of changes:
> > >
> > > - Graphical sound setup with vertical sliders
> > > 5 + 2 bars
> > > to go to the 2 right bars [Right] must be pressed for 1/2 sec
> > > - Linear volume setup
> > > - Cleaner icons (volume and others)
> > > - Inverted video cursor line
> > > - More responsive keyboard
> > > - Global Keys
> > > ON=Browse
> > > F1=Sound_Setup
> > > F2=Menu
> > > F3=WPS, browse when stopped
> > > - Play/Pause=Play/Pause always, except when browsing
> > > - Stop=Stop always
> > >
> > > Joaquim
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Received on 2003-02-19