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Subject: Re: Does RockBox Support ID3v1.2 tags?

Re: Does RockBox Support ID3v1.2 tags?

From: TP Diffenbach <>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 21:18:30 -0400

Quoting Paul van der Heu <>:

> >>ID3v1.x are more appropriate to the uses of most users, and
> much
> >>less problem-pron. Not a big deal when using a player like the
> >>rockbox, but as a general rule, I like my MP3s to be as universal
> >>playable as possible.
> >
> >Then don't use the 1.2 "standard", since very few players will
> be
> >able to read those tags.

Here's my two cents: according to the id3v1.2 specification:
"Entries Artist, Album/Title and Trackname are increased from 30 characters to 60 characters."

30 characters are not enough for me, nor are 60. I have tracknames that are considerably longer -- enough so that I had to ask the author of my mp3 tag editor (, get it, it's great) to increase total size of all tags to > 256 characters. I want arbitrarily sized tags, and I want Rockbox to display as much of those tags as is feasible (current size of all tags in 300 bytes, which seems reasonable given Rockbox uses static memory allocation).

Let's note that Id3v1 and Id3v2 tags are NOT mutually exclusive: you have have both in a single mp3, and the size of either or both is infintesimal compared to the size of an mp3.

According to the id3v1.2 specification:
"* Purpose

v1.2 does not conflict with other standards and is simply a simple patch to v1.1 to resolve tagging's two most often read
complaints heard in the mp3 community of the v1 standard being: the main tag entries are too short and they want
to use their own genre entry not the internal indexed ones.
Being these are the two most common complaints they can be resolved within ID3v1 by using this v1.2 patch to it."

Id3v1.2 is, as it clearly says, only a patch to id3v1 for software that doesn't (yet) support id3v2. Why not just use id3v2, which Rockbox does support (except for genre, and I've already a written a patch for that), and optionally include the id3v1.2 tag (whicg claims to be backward compatible) if you use software that doesn't supprt id3v2?

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Received on 2003-04-21

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