Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: Single play mode and feature bloat
Re: Single play mode and feature bloat
From: TP Diffenbach <rockbox_at_diffenbach.org>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 18:16:16 -0400
Regarding the size of the resulting ajz module you have forgotten one
audience which still exists at present, owners of the Jukebox FM.
I've hoping Linus can figure out the FM chip, and the good coders of the Rockbox project can give it a UI as nice as the rest of Rockbox's UI.
Quoting Jean Boullier <jean.boullier_at_wanadoo.fr>:
> Criticism is welcome here. My post was meant to build a stage in this
> discussion, from which we can refine, improve, discuss the need and the
> feasibility of nrw features.
> Regarding the size of the resulting ajz module you have forgotten one
> audience which still exists at present, i.e. the gamers and gadget
> lovers. When you disable games and demos from a build, about 50 kB are
> saved for better (in my opinion) use. Not mentioning the dynamic
> function loading (aka pluggins) which is already in the pipe.
> That does not mean that everything can and/or should be done but that
> leaves room for future improvements.
> Personally my main usage is as a jukebox music player plugged in my
> stereo, some kind of personal radio which always plays something I like
> but also leaves the surprise of what will be playing next.
> ajf wrote:
> > I don't mean to criticize this particular suggestion. In fact, I
> > would have some use for a few of its features.
> > BUT,
> > I'm beginning to worry about whether Rockbox developers should
> > continue to add things just because they can, without overloading the
> > product with features that will make it intimidating to new users.
> > I see at least four different Rockbox audiences and I'm a member of
> > three of them. Each has different needs re playlists, bookmarks,
> > cueing, level setting, etc etc.
> > A Jukebox music player
> > An audiobook player
> > A DJ/party music and sound effects mixer
> > A field recorder
> > Can one 200K piece of software do all these things? Should it?
> > Leif Sawyer writes:
> >> Jean Boullier writes:
> >>> To summarise, for DJ-like operations we need three new settings :
> >>> 1. "Play single mode", or "Pause after track" : "Yes", "No"
> >>> 2. "Skip silence" : "No", "Leading", "Trailing", "Both"
> >>> 3. "Silence threshold" : "-xxx dB"
> >>> Would that cover it all ?
> >> I think that at a minimum we need 1, and I'm preferential to
> >> the 'pause after track (with queue set to next track)' than
> >> just a 'play single mode (and stop)'. the auto-off timer
> >> works great while the jb is in pause mode..
> >> 2 and 3 are somewhat nice, but less important than 1.
> >> Of 2, trailing silence is more benificial
> >> for 3, not only a minimum dB, but also a time threshold,
> >> so that if the sound is below the mimimum for X time, then
> >> the action is taken.. (think songs with fake endings, or
> >> multiple gunshot/cannon f/x with pauses in between..)
-- Archos FM needs a Rockbox!Received on 2003-05-02