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Subject: Re: PDAs was Re: New Archos stuff

Re: PDAs was Re: New Archos stuff

From: George Styles <>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:47:06 +0100

While we are wondering this far off topic...

i have a Sony Clie, and use it all the time to read e-books, i run PDF's
through pdftohtml to get them into HTML, which i then handle like web

for web pages, I use ISilo ( - a GREAT program which can
basically rip a web site, compress it into one file, and I stick that on a
memory stick...

This works very well


----- Original Message -----
From: "TP Diffenbach" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: OT: PDAs was Re: New Archos stuff

> Actually, you can do what you want on a Palm for about $200 (even Palms
with OS 3.1 could display PDF, if not exactly well -- I remember reading the
C++ Standard on mine (yes, I bought a copy from ANSI, and a copy of the C
Standard too)).
> And yes, I read books too -- check out for some good
popular neuro science, for example -- on a Palm with 4-bit "color"; just
replace the default font with a better one using a fiont "hack".
> I think you can get a Zaurus 5500 for around $200 too, which gives you a
linux OS, a color screen, and a good bit more memory than a palm. I use a
5600 ($500), and it's got its drawbacks, but you can read on it. The Zaurus
displays and edits MS Word, and you can find a number of document readers,
or use the included Opera browser for HTML. The Zaurus font doesn't seem to
include an m dash ("--"), which is annoying, but other than that, it's ok.
> Add a wifi card to the zaurus, and you can surf and irc (it's got a thumb
keyboard) while in the bathtub.
> Quoting Wesley Simon <>:
> >
> > I work with a guy that knows a few insiders at Apple and he was
> > expecting a product similar to this one when they did the new iPod
> > announcement back in May. Rumor is that Apple has a similar product in
> > the works.
> >
> > I'd love to have a small device like this that allows me to read files
> > like PDF, text, perhaps html and (god forbid) Word documents. Given
> > the amount of written text (manuals, e-books, etc.) that are in
> > electronic form, I'd love to have a small portable device that would
> > allow me to kick back in a chair or lay in bed and read them. Granted,
> > I can take the 12" PowerBook to bed with me but my wife already feels
> > as though my computer is a mistress! I'm sure one of the new Palm and
> > Palm-like devices would do all this, but those kind of devices are too
> > expensive and limited on capacity. I'd seriously consider something in
> > the $200 price range that could only store and display documents.
> >
> > And yes, I know that I could convert all the aforementioned document
> > types to text and then read them on my recorder. Some documents,
> > especially technical documents, lose meaning without the proper
> > formatting. I have a 1500+ page Solaris manual in PDF format that
> > would lose all meaning without the screenshots, bold and italicized
> > fonts and formatted code snippets.
> >
> >
> > Enough of my ramblings. The new archos AV300 is pretty damn kick ass.
> > A person could bring along their own movies on a flight without having
> > to bring along a computer.
> >
> > My only wish is that Archos would start supporting firewire.
> >
> >
> --
> Archos FM has a Rockbox!
Received on 2003-06-03

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