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Subject: Re: play WAV?

Re: play WAV?

From: BlueChip <>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:41:23 +0100

Dearest Dan the badger man,

While you are "guessing" ...why not "guess" at a good outcome will
make you feel happier, and, let's face it stated quite clearly that
you are ONLY "guessing"

You say that some of the Rockbox core developers believe it is possible
...well, actually, you stated it in the negative ...but if there are X
"developers" and Y of them believe that they could not do it (where Y<X)
then logically there must be Z developers who believe that (with the right
information) that they COULD do it!

This is FANTASTIC news, I'm glad that I am not on my own in the belief that
this CAN be done.

I do LOVE your analogy of OGG being the BLUE WHALE of compression systems -
I don't like it either!
But given that OGG developers are as 'never-say-die' as most linux freaks I
know, I'll let THEM solve THAT problem if they are interested enough.
...I'm guessing some form of compactor might be useful - squash your Blue
Whale to a more manageable size; or perhaps you could put only the BITS of
Blue Whale in the fish tank that you wished to see at that time; or perhaps
some combination of the two; or perhaps something else that a clever mind
can think of...
Meh! It's all academic really I say, I really don't like OGG anyway
- My aim is to turn the JBR into a music composer and add sound effects to
my games... first person shoot-em-ups really aren't the same without sound.

What a shame the first guy was scared off :(
Still, 'there are plenty more fish in the sea' :)

Stay positive :)


At 09:39 29/08/03 +0200, you wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, BlueChip wrote:
> > Once we have the 3507 SDK, we'll be able to play pretty much everything,
> > wav, ogg, karaoke, midi, mod, etc. etc.
>That is certainly not the opinions of many of the Rockbox core developers.
>The available space for custom programs within the MAS is much too small to
>fit any really advanced program, even if we would get every tiny bit
>documented and explained.
>So, if I would guess, anything that goes beyond mere changing of the mp3
>playback, it will never be possible to do on the Archos without hardware
>Just check the size of the OGG integer player code and then check the
>available space for custom programs in the MAS. It is a bit like getting a
>Blue Whale into your living room fish tank.
> > ...So far the closest I have got is a friend of a friend who said he knew
> > everything about the chip, but when challenged on programming he clarified
> > that he meant "anything about it electrically" ...I asked if he knew anyone
> > else who could help and he said he would keep his ear to the ground for me
> > ...Anyone else know a person in either the electronic industry or who works
> > at a university - Micronas will almost certainly throw a free dev kit at a
> > convincing electronics student!?
>Back in the early days of Rockbox we found a guy who actually had done
>"microcode" coding on the MAS and we emailed him to ask for help, but he
>declined as we couldn't offer him any money and he didn't feel like helping us
>for the fun of it.
> Daniel Stenberg -- --
Received on 2003-08-29

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