From: mielpop <mielpop_at_free.fr>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:13:20 +0100

Pheww

This is beginning to be a little too complicated...

Would I be supposed to work on the solders ???

But how did it happen, then, since I didn't change anything and I only run
software operation ?



> Roland,
>
> the tac tac tac is probably coming from your hard drive which is being told
> to turn on and back off rhythmically. I had the same problem after
> replacing the original 6 GB hard disk with a 20 Gig version (also IBM, same
> model). After several hours of checking the unit with the case off (worked
> fine), then putting the case back on only to get the identical effect you
> described (unit would only spin up and boot if the ON button was held) to
> taking the case back off... repeat above... I figured out the actual
> problem: there seems to be a distributed ground connection around the top
> of the unit (also to the left of the ON button) that is realised by
> bleeding solder through a PCB hole onto the metal case below. A pretty
> haphazard way of doing things (but to be honest, I was shocked anyway at
> the soldering quality inside my Recorder).
> I took a soldering iron and pumped some new, hot solder into this ground
> bridge -- after that - no problem!
>
> Hans
>
> At 29.11.2003 - 20:13, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> > > when I run the jukebox, the system begin to load during 1 or 2 seconds,
> >
> > then
> >
> > > shut down. If I keep the on button pushed, I get these values :
> > >
> > > Hd register error
> > > SC1 (85) 128
> > > SN1 (170) 128
> > > SC2 (170) 128
> > > SN2 (85) 128
> > > - I can hear a strange little noise when I keep the "on" button pushed
> > > (something like a speedy "tac tac tac tac".
> >
> >mhhh - replace the batteries with some fresh charged ones and try again.
> >archos JB behaves really strange when batteries begin getting empty or if
> >on cell of the 4 is going to get bad.
> >the shutdown after 1-2 seconds, the register error and the tactactac sound
> >familar
> >to me.
> >let me guess: the tactactac goes in sync with flickering of the lcd
> >backlight, right?
> >(btw: even the charger usually doesn`t deliver enough power for permanent
> >"running"
> >of the jukebox. so big datatransfers and long-lasting-operations like
> >defrag _can_
> >be problematic - at least with my car adapter this happens quite often and
> >gives
> >me the typical "tactactac" on startup)
> >
> >roland
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "mielpop" <mielpop_at_free.fr>
>
> >To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:36 PM
> >Subject: Hd failure on recorder 20
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I have encountered the following problem recently :
> > >
> > > I was trying to acces my archos recorder 20 with linux mandrake 9.1.
> >
> > And that
> >
> > > was NOT a piece of cake :
> > >
> > > Archos jukebox is supposed to be recognized as a usb mass storage, and
> >
> > I read
> >
> > > everything I could to do so : what I finally got was that it was
> >
> > possible for
> >
> > > me to access it if the archos was plugged BEFORE booting...
> > >
> > > I recently re-intalled the 9.1, and then, on boot, I was asked if I
> >
> > wanted to
> >
> > > run the config tool, what I did.
> > >
> > > I remember I did not do anything with this tool (meaning : no
> >
> > suppression of
> >
> > > partition or anything, no formating or so).
> > >
> > > But after that, I couldn't acces to th internal harddrive in my rockbox
> > > :
> > >
> > > Here is the thing :
> > >
> > > when I run the jukebox, the system begin to load during 1 or 2 seconds,
> >
> > then
> >
> > > shut down. If I keep the on button pushed, I get these values :
> > >
> > > Hd register error
> > > SC1 (85) 128
> > > SN1 (170) 128
> > > SC2 (170) 128
> > > SN2 (85) 128
> > >
> > > I firstly thought the linux config tool I ran had messed up my
> >
> > partition table
> >
> > > or anything. Which seemed to be confirmed by the fact I could plug the
> >
> > archos
> >
> > > with usb (keeping the "on" button on boot usb pllugged).
> > >
> > > So, I tryed to do something with windows XP :
> > >
> > > I tryed a scandisk, wich freezed at 25 %
> > > I tryed to format the hard drive (fat 32), expecting I could get a new
> > > formatted hard drive, but the format didnt' succeed (an error message
> > > occurred at 10 %).
> > >
> > > - Now, I can not anymore access the hard driove with usb (under linux
> > > or windows).
> > >
> > > - I can hear a strange little noise when I keep the "on" button pushed
> > > (something like a speedy "tac tac tac tac".
> > >
> > > - Still, I get the given values.
> > >
> > > Hd register error
> > > SC1 (85) 128
> > > SN1 (170) 128
> > > SC2 (170) 128
> > > SN2 (85) 128
> > >
> > >
> > > I read the thread
> > > http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0497.shtml
> > > But it does concern a new HD recognition problem.
> > >
> > > Anyway, my feeling is that my hard drive is down... But, as I didn't
> >
> > manage to
> >
> > > do anything mechanically, I wonder if I could not do anything (except
> > > changing the drive).
> > >
> > > Firstly, does anywone know what is wrong with my jukebox (is it
> >
> > necessarily a
> >
> > > HD problem).
> > > Secondly, does anywone have any idea of what happenned ?
> > > Thirdly, does anywone have a suggestion to fix it ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for reading all this long message.
Received on 2003-11-30