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Subject: Re: What is the opinion on the best MP3 players now?

Re: What is the opinion on the best MP3 players now?

From: Frog Killer <>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:55:26 -0500

It's a good thing I'm on this list, as I was also looking for a higher
capacity player like the Zen. Now that I read this I'm keeping my AJB20
(although it's using the outdated USB 1.1) It's a great player overall.
Thanks for your input on this Björn and you guys are doing such a great job
with Rockbox.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Björn Stenberg" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: What is the opinion on the best MP3 players now?

> SteamShip wrote:
> > I'm looking to get a new player, but cannot imagine why I would need the
> > GB recorder model, unless it has a larger cache or much better features.
> The recorders differ in more ways than just being able to record. The
graphic display and improved button layout allows for many more features
than the players have. Also you will find that they have a richer sound than
the old 6000 model.
> As for the "new" crop of players (last two years), I haven't really found
one I'm attracted to:
> - Ipod. Great size, nice screen, nice hardware (dual ARM7!). Lousy
firmware (can't play gapless, can't even play long tracks). Zombie users
that worship apple like a god and tries to claim all ipod bugs are actually
clever features.
> - Neuros. Promising start, claiming "open source" firmware. Has yet to
deliver on that claim though. Nice 4-scale screen, otherwise outdated
hardware, with USB 1.1 and large size. Requires special software to add
> - iRiver iHP-120. Good size, nice remote with hi-res display. Good
hardware with multi-codec ability. Horrible horrible interface. The
"joystick" button on the main unit is nearly useless, and steering with it
feels like trying to steer with the ON button on an Archos: You always press
it down instead of sideways. Has buttons on tree sides(!) of the main unit
and two sides of the remote, yet still resorts to "long press" and "short
press" tricks in the user interface. Could have been a contender with better
firmware if not for the useless navigation button.
> - Creative Zen. It's a Creative product, what more can I say? They don't
really want you to use their products, or at least so it seems by the ever
more complex hoops they make their users jump through. Non-standard USB
interface, requires special software to copy files etc etc...
> - Rio Karma. I haven't played with this myself, only read reviews. Really
nice size. Nice hardware, including ethernet. However requires a special
program to load music and requires proprietary windows drivers to update the
> I'm thinking of making a big ol' table listing information about all
players that come out. Some info is really hard to find out (especially Ipod
> --
> Björn
Received on 2003-12-07

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