From: SteamShip <steamship_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:30:06 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: "roland" <for_spam_at_gmx.de>
To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS


> > How would you feel if you just got a new model and it stopped
> > working within hours of flashing it.
> angry - indeed!
>
> FYI
> >3. Risks

>snip<


Yeah, but it was working after the flash for about an hour just fine. I
could use all options, but I did notice that the USB-2 transfers were slower
than they should be. In retrospect, I think this is a bad HD, unrelated to
the Flashing.

> >Have a little compassion you bastard, and do your jokes and bashing
elsewhere.
>
> come on! be nice to each other - this is not the kind of way we should
speak to
> each other on this list!


I agree, but I don't appreciate trying to find out what this error code
means, and Mr. High & Mighty Thomas Paul Diffenbach uses my misfortune to
trash the FM or V2 model that I was clearly not using.

> it`s annoying to break expensive hardware - but that`s just a shitty
little piece of
> hardware which is known to fail very often, so it is not even worth to be
angry about
> or even curse at each other, because of that.
> you probably get this fixed with the help from this nice people here -
or - you probably
> have a general hardware problem with your hdd inside and have to contact
archos. but you
> could be out of luck because they would complain about the flashing. but
there is http://www.newmp3technology.com/ as an alternative
> which repair them at a fixed price.
>

So you consider the 20GB Recorder to be a "shitty little piece of hardware
which is known to fail very often" ??? I wish everyone would have made
this clear about the 50277 model before I bought two of them. I am now
using the second one that I did not, and will not flash and it seems to be
working well.

In addition, thank God I bought these from Amazon, because getting no help
here, I complained by phone to Amazon that the unit was defective on
arrival. They cheerfully are shipping me a replacement at no charge 2 Day
Airmail, and a pre-paid postage label for me to return this one. So, I hope
this is a lesson to everyone NOT TO FLASH THEIR FIRMWARE, or expect the
Rockbox email list to help solve your hardware failure problems.

I had sent the Rockbox Website PayPal $30 in appreciation of their software
too. Oh well. Live and learn.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SteamShip" <steamship_at_sbcglobal.net>
> To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
>
>
> > If you can't be helpful, then I would appreciate it if you just shut the
> > fuck up. How would you feel if you just got a new model and it stopped
> > working within hours of flashing it. Have a little compassion you
bastard,
> > and do your jokes and bashing elsewhere.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "TP Diffenbach" <rockbox_at_diffenbach.org>
> > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:19 PM
> > Subject: RE: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> >
> >
> > > > PLEASE DON'T USE MY PLEA FOR HELP AS A WAY TO BASH A MODEL FOR YOUR
> > > OWN SELFISH AGENDA
> > >
> > > Ok, I admit it: I, at the behest of the Trilateral Commission and the
> > > Illuminati, with the support of the Internal Brotherhood of Elks and
the
> > > Reptilian Humanoids from the star Sirius, have sworn that my selfish
> > agenda
> > > is to bash the FMR.
> > >
> > > You have unmasked me!
> > >
> > > Drat, foiled again.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se]On
> > > Behalf Of SteamShip
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 2:48 PM
> > > To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> > > Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > >
> > > No if you read my PLEA for help talking about just replacing the 4
NiMH
> > > batteries and it being a model 50277 you would see that it is neither
a
> > FMT
> > > nor V2. PLEASE DON'T USE MY PLEA FOR HELP AS A WAY TO BASH A MODEL
FOR
> > YOUR
> > > OWN SELFISH AGENDA!
> > >
> > > I am posting a problem that greatly concerns me, asking for help as to
> > what
> > > is wrong, not to give you a soapbox to fight about some other issue.
CAN
> > > ANYONE TELL ME WHAT THIS MEANS, AND WHY? DID I DO SOMETHING WRONG?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "TP Diffenbach" <rockbox_at_diffenbach.org>
> > > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:51 PM
> > > Subject: RE: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> > >
> > >
> > > > Is it an FMT or a V2? If so, it may well be an issue of Archos
quality
> > (or
> > > > lack thereof) control.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
[mailto:owner-rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se]On
> > > > Behalf Of SteamShip
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:35 PM
> > > > To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
> > > > Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SHIT....After charging the batteries for 8 hours and having it
display
> > > they
> > > > were fully changed, it now will no longer boot with F1. It gets to
the
> > > 4th
> > > > bar on the old Archos firmware and the hard drive clicking starts
> > getting
> > > > continuous, then sounds like it is in bad shape. I can't get the
> > original
> > > > archos back into it. Is this a dead Archos that was only a day
old?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "SteamShip" <steamship_at_sbcglobal.net>
> > > > To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:25 AM
> > > > Subject: ATA Error -52 HELP!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >snip<
> > > >
> > > > > ATA error -52
> > > > > Press ON to debug (which I did) This is what it showed (the AN
> > values
> > > > > flickered through various characters which I tried to see and show
in
> > > > > parentheses):
> > > > >
> > > > > PADR: A27F
> > > > > PBDR: BD95
> > > > > AN0: 3FF AN4: 000 (to 002)
> > > > > AN1: 1E0 (to 1F9) AN5: 000 (to 002)
> > > > > AN2: 001 (to 003) AN6: 350 (to 356)
> > > > > AN3: 15B (to 15C/D) AN7: 16F (to 170)
> > > > > Batt: 5.48 V (to 5.50) -1%
> > > > > ATA: master, 0x200
> > > > >
> > > > > Then I pressed the Off button, and it displayed:
> > > > >
> > > > > *Panic* ATA: -52
> > > > >
> > > > > I can start it with F1 into old Archos firmware. I decided to put
in
> > my
> > > > > 1800 mAH batteries and it seems to be ok again, but the charging
> > > batteries
> > > > > is keeping the display light on.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Received on 2003-12-13