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Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS


From: Planet77 <>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:20:06 +0100

Please stop it...
It's not nice for you and not nice for us, the other members of the list.
I am not the owner or some other important person of the list, but I think no
one wants to have such silliness on the list. Please do this via personal

Have a nice day
----- Original Message -----
From: "SteamShip" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "scott" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: ATA Error -52 HELP! WORSE NEWS
> > --- SteamShip <> wrote:
> > > So you consider the 20GB Recorder to be a "shitty little piece of
> hardware
> > > which is known to fail very often" ???   I wish everyone would have made
> > > this clear about the 50277 model before I bought two of them.  I am now
> > > using the second one that I did not, and will not flash and it seems to
> be
> > > working well.
> >
> > every piece of hardware archos makes is shitty and known to fail often.
> the rec20 just happens to
> > be the least shitty of them all. once you get a good one it should last
> for years, but many of
> > archos' products are DOA.
> I had never heard people describing that "every piece of hardware that
> archos makes is shitty and known to fail often," nor that many of their
> products are DOA.   I don't know if that is the consensus of the more
> sensible members of this consortium, but it surely does not make anyone want
> to buy Archos, and as a consequence use Rockbox if that is true.
> > > In addition, thank God I bought these from Amazon, because getting no
> help
> > > here, I complained by phone to Amazon that the unit was defective on
> > > arrival.  They cheerfully are shipping me a replacement at no charge 2
> Day
> > > Airmail, and a pre-paid postage label for me to return this one.  So, I
> hope
> > > this is a lesson to everyone NOT TO FLASH THEIR FIRMWARE, or expect the
> > > Rockbox email list to help solve your hardware failure problems.
> >
> > flashing very rarely goes wrong, and you yourself said you suspected the
> HD and not the flashing.
> > you're also taking the responses and opinions of people who don't
> represent rockbox to be all
> > there is. if you want a _good_ answer, it will probably come from jörg or
> björn or linus. be
> > patient and you'll get a good answer.
> I actually do not know what is wrong, since I do not have access to a list
> of the error codes to know what ATA -52 means.  I am not computer
> illiterate, as I do programming and have built at least 25 PC's from scratch
> and numerous other hardware mods.  I do not know if the flashing could have
> caused this, but my guess is the HD was faulty based on noises and slow USB
> 2.0 transfers.  That is just an educated guess.
> I apologize to everyone for swearing and getting pissed off in the moment,
> and hope to hear some words of wisdom from Jörg, Björn, or Linus rather than
> the useless trash I responded to earlier.  I do not yet know who the senior,
> more knowledgeable people are yet.
> > > I had sent the Rockbox Website PayPal $30 in appreciation of their
> software
> > > too.  Oh well.  Live and learn.
> >
> > rockbox is easily the most impressive use of oss i've ever used (even more
> so with jörg's new
> > greyscale doom awesomeness).  would you still be using an archos at all if
> it wasn't for rockbox?
> >
> > if you regret donating that much, kindly fuck off.
> >
> > -scott
> That was also uncalled for Scott.  Read my words.  I did not say that I
> regretted donating $30, so why don't you kindly fellate yourself with
> comments that don't apply to what I said.  I was disappointed in the moment.
> In addition, knowing human nature, I seriously doubt most of this list
> participants have donated money at all.
Received on 2003-12-14

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