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Subject: Re: Searching without a plugin, was Search Plugin

Re: Searching without a plugin, was Search Plugin

From: Michael O'Quinn <>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:41:15 -0800 (PST)

I think this is a good start. Could you make it available as a download
somwhere? I can donate some webspace if you want to email it to me.


On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Elliott, Tim wrote:

> Well, I guess I would define "every possible search" as the ability to find
> any word in any song. I guess numbers would be a good idea to include as
> well. What I am proposing is just to run some code on the PC to gather every
> word in every song and then dump that to something that the Archos can use.
> Or that we (as humans) could easily use. In other words, to preprocess and
> give up drive space to gain speed and ease of use later.
> On my unit, I am storing all the words of all song titles as playlists. One
> playlist for every word in every song, and then storing those playlists in
> separate folders on the drive under a master "!SEARCH" folder. I wrote a
> small VB app to do this for me. I just create a playlist of the songs I want
> the program to create "word based" playlists for, and then tell the VB app
> to use that playlist and then it spits out a TON of directories and a TON of
> playlists, which then I copy over to my Archos. This way if I get a several
> new songs, I just create a new playlist for just those songs and feed that
> to my VB app so that it can merge the new songs into the existing word based
> playlists that I might already have.
> Lets say I want to search for a song called "Go home Fool.mp3"
> Using Fool as the word I am searching for,
> On my Archos, I just browse to my folder where I keep all the "search"
> playlists, and then go to the
> "F" folder, then I go to the "O" folder, then I scroll down untill I see the
> Fool.m3u playlist I can then just play it. Currently I am only using the
> first two letters of the word to search for.
> While the playlist might contain other songs that have the word "fool" in
> them, I can always choose next song untill I get to the one I want.
> I have considered rewriting my code to do a little better job of making the
> playlists contain only one song each. The example I used would then be
> listed as "Fool, go home.m3u". There would also be playlists for the other
> words too. "Go home fool.m3u", and "Home, go fool.m3u".
> I currently have about 3,623 songs and am using about 15GB on my Recorder20.
> After using this method on all my music on the drive, I end up with an
> additional 12MB of disk spaced used just for the search files and folders.
> The Search folder also contains 3,088 playlists and it is using 293 folders.
> To me giving up a measly 12MB is nothing for the ability to easily and
> quickly search even while other songs are playing. The one negative to all
> this is that my current VB app is still a little picky about song titles. If
> I have non text in the song title, the program will create some non text
> playlists.
> Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rune Wiinberg []
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:43 PM
> To:
> Subject: Fw: Search Plugin
> > Wouldn't a search capability work much better if you did every possible
> > search on your PC, and you carried the results around with you on the
> > Archos?
> Just out of curiousity: How do you define: "every possible search " ?
> I personally find it usefull to be able to do simple searches on the run -
> if I eg. wants to listen to a certain song and I can't recall in which
> directory it's stored.
> However with more complex searches (including ID3 tracks) I (like you) tend
> to use my PC. - But I rarely perform these.
> / Rune
Received on 2003-12-20

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