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Subject: RE: Rockbox Digest, Vol 3, Issue 118

RE: Rockbox Digest, Vol 3, Issue 118

From: A. Alkon <andy_at_paradoxpoetry.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:45:07 -0400

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Archos talking directory items ([IDC]Dragon)
   2. RE: Archos talking directory items (Aman Singer)
   3. Re: Archos talking directory items (Brian Wolven)
   4. Click when Pressing Next (Brian)
   5. Re: Click when Pressing Next (Brian Wolven)
   6. Re: Stop with remote (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   7. Talking Directories & Fast Key Presses (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   8. Re: Stop with remote (Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de)
   9. Re: re-flash (was Re: Video on Archos) (Geedavee)
  10. Car auto-power on (RK)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:55:06 +0200 (MEST)
From: "[IDC]Dragon" <idc-dragon_at_gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items
To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
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It worked nicely as j:\ for me.

> One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's
not
> going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It
> must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and
> drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be
made
> to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is

> fine, but j:\ is not.


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:58 -0400
From: "Aman Singer" <aman_at_asinger.net>
Subject: RE: Archos talking directory items
To: "'Rockbox development'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <20040427181423.TBRW286963.web02-imail.rogers.com_at_newaman>
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Hi, Brian.
	You said
	One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script -
it's
not 
going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It 
must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and 
drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be made
to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is 
fine, but j:\ is not.
	Hmm. That's odd. I can get it to use 
	j:\
	quite easily. It creates a .dirname.tbx file in the root
directory
as well, but it certainly works for all the other directories, just as
if I
had entered
	j:\music
	Have you tried this on Windows XP? I've only used it on that
system,
and perhaps it interprets Vbscript differently somehow. 
	Aman	
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From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]
On
Behalf Of Brian Wolven
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:19 PM
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items
fanus wrote:
> Hi Aman
> You are a little superior to my knowledge. Do you mean that if I have
> all the software which speaks the menu items, it is just a matter of
> changing the settings you mentioned to get the foldernames announced
> like "folder 1 ..." etc. or must I only want folder 1 etc. and not
> download other software. In other words, I do not want voice clips, so
> will my current software work to set it for folder1 ... Etc.
> I hope you follow what I mean.
> Thanks
> Fanus
If you just want the folders and files to be identified by a number, 
then you need not create any voice clips. You only need a recent daily 
build of rockbox and a copy of the voice file for your desired language.
I think that English, French, and German vioce files have been created 
by people so far. It is possible to create your own voice file if you're
willing to do a little work. Here's the page with links to the already 
made voice files, BTW:
http://rockbox.haxx.se/lang/
And yes, it does currently show links for deutsch/english/francais.
One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script - it's not
going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It 
must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and 
drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be made
to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is 
fine, but j:\ is not.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:28:43 -0400
From: Brian Wolven <brian.wolven_at_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Archos talking directory items
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
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Aman Singer wrote:
> Hi, Brian.
> 	You said
> 	One correction to Aman's comments about the mp3clipgen script -
it's
> not 
> going to work (AFAIK) if you specify a drive letter as the input. It 
> must be a folder. The script operates recursively, and folders and 
> drives are accessed by different methods in vbscript. It *could* be
made 
> to use a drive letter, but it won't as presently coded. So J:\music is
> fine, but j:\ is not.
> 
> 
> 	Hmm. That's odd. I can get it to use 
> 	j:\
> 
> 	quite easily. It creates a .dirname.tbx file in the root
directory
> as well, but it certainly works for all the other directories, just as
if I
> had entered
> 	j:\music
> 	Have you tried this on Windows XP? I've only used it on that
system,
> and perhaps it interprets Vbscript differently somehow. 
Oops - no - you and Jörg are quite right, that script *does* work fine 
on drive roots or folders. One of my playlist building scripts does not,
however, and I confused the two. Mea culpa. =)
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:26:30 -0400
From: "Brian" <GCRockboxer13_at_columbus.rr.com>
Subject: Click when Pressing Next
To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <001901c42c95$ed3f3bb0$6600a8c0_at_brianscomp>
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I know you guys are hard working at everything you do at Rockbox
development, but one thing could be improved that stands out to me is
the
loud click when you press next.  Well, it may not be loud on headphones,
but
when using a car adaptor or plugged into an amplified stereo, it is
quite
loud.  This used to be an issue to me with play and stop before the fade
out
was released, but the fade eliminated the problem.  How do we feel about
perhaps a slightly faster fadeout (half or even a fourth of the
stop/pause
fadeout length) to get rid of the click?
Brian
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:57:35 -0400
From: Brian Wolven <brian.wolven_at_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Click when Pressing Next
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
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Brian wrote:
> I know you guys are hard working at everything you do at Rockbox
> development, but one thing could be improved that stands out to me is
the
> loud click when you press next.  Well, it may not be loud on
headphones, but
> when using a car adaptor or plugged into an amplified stereo, it is
quite
> loud.  This used to be an issue to me with play and stop before the
fade out
> was released, but the fade eliminated the problem.  How do we feel
about
> perhaps a slightly faster fadeout (half or even a fourth of the
stop/pause
> fadeout length) to get rid of the click?
Erm, what click? Is this a 'feature' of some models, but not others?
--
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:29:52 +0200 (MEST)
From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de
Subject: Re: Stop with remote
To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
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Hi James,
I guess with 2.2 the STOP command via remote is only working in file
browse
mode, but not while playing a song (try to remote stop playing a song).
I mentioned that bug (remote STOP not working in WPS) and Linus did a
fix
first published in daily build 23.04.04, means all newer daily builds
should
contain that bugfix too.
For your reference, here there is a link to the mail archive:
http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-03/0942.shtml
Greetings,
Matthias
> Thanks.  version 2.2 fixed the problem with the stop on the remote.
> 
> 
> >From: scott <die_pokemon_die123_at_yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> >To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> >Subject: Re: Stop with remote
> >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >--- James Currie <currie0522_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I've got one remaining issue with my remote.  It wasn't working at
all
> >and
> > > indeed the batteries were dead.  I installed new batteries and 
> >everything is
> > > working except the Stop function.   I am using a Studio 10 with
> version 
> >2.1
> > > of Rockbox.  The player is obviously seeing the stop command
because
> the
> > > backlighting is activating, but it is not responding.  The stop
button
> >on
> > > the player does work.  Suggestions?
> >
> >upgrade to 2.2. if that doesn't work, upgrade to a daily build, i
seem to
> >remember this bug being
> >fixed.
> >
> >-scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:45:48 +0200 (MEST)
From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de
Subject: Talking Directories & Fast Key Presses
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
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Hi,
first of all I would like to point out that this talking dir feature is
really great. I'm using my AJB in the car and it was sometimes difficult
to
read the display when the sun was shining on it. I have the talking dirs
now
working and it is also a great step ahead in security, because you don't
need to take your eyes off the road while cruising aroudn with 180km/h
(in
Germany hihi ;-)))
I found some behaviour, that could be improved:
I have only the talking directories enabled.
I'm browsing around with the keys pretty fast.
When a .dirname is played and I'm pressing the +/- keys, the current
.dirname is aborted and the next one begins to play.
So far so good.
Try this with some fast key presses and it sounds a little bit confused.
Maybe it would be a solution to bring in a user configurable delay into
the
menu, that delays playing of the next .dirname when the previous one was
aborted. Means that would create a little pause between them.
I was thinking in user configurable delay, because I suppose that some
users
don't like it the way I purposed. In this case it would be only a matter
of
configuration.
Any opinions ?
Greetings
Matthias
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 23:46:59 +0200 (MEST)
From: Matthias.Klumpp_at_gmx.de
Subject: Re: Stop with remote
To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
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Uuuuh, I've forgotten one thing.
That bug mentioned below, apears only with the AJB Studio's as far as I
know.
Greetings
Matthias
> Hi James,
> 
> I guess with 2.2 the STOP command via remote is only working in file
> browse
> mode, but not while playing a song (try to remote stop playing a
song).
> 
> I mentioned that bug (remote STOP not working in WPS) and Linus did a
fix
> first published in daily build 23.04.04, means all newer daily builds
> should
> contain that bugfix too.
> 
> For your reference, here there is a link to the mail archive:
> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-03/0942.shtml
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> > Thanks.  version 2.2 fixed the problem with the stop on the remote.
> > 
> > 
> > >From: scott <die_pokemon_die123_at_yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > >To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> > >Subject: Re: Stop with remote
> > >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >--- James Currie <currie0522_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I've got one remaining issue with my remote.  It wasn't working
at
> all
> > >and
> > > > indeed the batteries were dead.  I installed new batteries and 
> > >everything is
> > > > working except the Stop function.   I am using a Studio 10 with
> > version 
> > >2.1
> > > > of Rockbox.  The player is obviously seeing the stop command
because
> > the
> > > > backlighting is activating, but it is not responding.  The stop
> button
> > >on
> > > > the player does work.  Suggestions?
> > >
> > >upgrade to 2.2. if that doesn't work, upgrade to a daily build, i
seem
> to
> > >remember this bug being
> > >fixed.
> > >
> > >-scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:51:38 -0700
From: Geedavee <eck_david_at_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: re-flash (was Re: Video on Archos)
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
Message-ID: <c6mrnl$lpl$1_at_sea.gmane.org>
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It works now.  Thank you all for your help.
This video is really cool.
If anyone comes across any more videos ready to play, let me know.
[IDC]Dragon wrote:
>>Geedavee wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Do I need to flash it again?  I updated with the daily build with the
>>>ajbrec.ajz.  I notice when I turn on the player, it still says
version
>>
>>2.1.
> 
> 
> Yes, flashed boxes don't care about a ajbrec.ajz in the root.
Otherwise, the
> benefit of flashing would be taken away. To update, play a newer .ucl
file,
> very easy.
> 
> 
>>>What file do I use to flash it again?
>>
>>You should be able to go in the .rockbox directory and 'play' the .ucl
>>file located there, as long as your current build isn't too old. 
> 
> 
> Yes, that's right.
> 
> 
>>If you 
>>get messages about 'incompatible versions' or something like that, you
>>may need to go back and re-run the whole flashing procedure again,
just 
>>like the first time you flashed it, but with the newer code. 
> 
> 
> No need to go that drastic, you should rolo (=play) the new ajbrec.ajz
to be
> consistent with the also updated plugins. This is always possible and
the
> recommended way.
> 
> But if this gives you a reminder that your boot loader is outdated,
you
> should do the full flash like the first time.
> 
> Jörg
> 
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:31:13 -0500
From: "RK" <randyk_at_wi.rr.com>
Subject: Car auto-power on
To: <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Message-ID: <001301c42cc0$7e74e6f0$0200a8c0_at_windows>
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I have the JBR V2, and like a few others noticed that when you shut the
power off--it pauses and powers down.  However, it does not power on
when power is restored.
This is not completely true though, the last few times I've turned on my
ignition it did in fact power on and start playing again.  Sometimes it
does not power on though and I have to do it manually.
Maybe it has something to do with how soon you start your car after
turning the ignition on?  I have to try it quickly and with a pause.  So
there is a resume feature in it already, but it doesn't always work.
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