From: Aman Singer <aman_at_asinger.net>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 07:08:05 -0400

Hi, Jörg.
        You said, in reference to the loss of voice problem,
I know about this problem, but failed to fight it so far. It sneaked in with
my fix of the swallowed first syllable when changing clips.
To fix the new problem, I may need to change the method Rockbox does
pause/resume in general. Sorry for neglecting this, maybe I should roll back
for the time being.

        I would, for one, ask you to roll back for now. The swallowing of a
clip is, IMHO, not that vital, but the losing of voice is a pain. The former
is easy to deal with in context, but the latter requires shutdown and
restart.
        Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
Behalf Of [IDC]Dragon
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:55 AM
To: Rockbox development
Subject: Re: 0505Build voice UI crash

> but a small problem happens when I
> hover the folders with spelling enabled, and it's quite annoying:
> Pressing
> stop while the recorder spells the item, results in a sort of crash of the
> whole voice UI. I tryed to play a song, then stop again, but voice is no
> longer there, you have to reboot the unit or rolo a new firmware file.

I know about this problem, but failed to fight it so far. It sneaked in with
my fix of the swallowed first syllable when changing clips.
To fix the new problem, I may need to change the method Rockbox does
pause/resume in general. Sorry for neglecting this, maybe I should roll back
for the time being.

> I was suggesting Joerg, wouldn't it be better to eliminate the option "on
> enter" in the folder voice menu? Someone uses it?

I don't know, copied that from the original talkbox patch. I'm a big fan of
removing option clutter!

> and wouldn't it be better
> to have les options and a default strategy like this: 1. if file.tbx
> present, it plays the file. 2. if file not present, it says the number
followed
> by the word folder, 3. if the stop or other button is pressed, it spells
> the item. To me this is something that would replace all the options, and
> an on and off status would be enough.

You at least need to decide if you want to use talkbox or not. To find out
that the file is not there still requires the disk to spin up.

> I honestly don't see the
> point in having so much voiced information as in the screen, for instance,
> while deleting a file, it would be enough a beep that could confirm the
> file
> elimination or a small word to say simply OK, and this would be enough for
> all the situations where you have to be aware that something was done
> correctly.

A beep is a little bit complicated, because a TTS engine won't generate one.
So this would be a side path of the voice file generation.

>... The bookmarks, wouldn't it be better to be able to set a bookmark
> while in stop, so to have a confirmation? someone said that perhaps this
> could be done using the "resume" index that is kept while in stop? is it
> feasible?

Benjamin was at least thinking about it. I'm not sure.

Jörg

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