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Subject: Re: Motorcycling, Archos, Hearing, and safety.

Re: Motorcycling, Archos, Hearing, and safety.

From: Nick Brodich <>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:03:17 -0400

Wow! I didn't mean to start a tempest in a teapot with my rather dry and
technical questions. I appreciate the concern of those who don't believe
one should operate a motorcycle while listening to music. Yes, motorcycles
are tricky and require considerably more concentration that cars. That
being said, I have ridden for many years without music. I have recently
begun taking some rides with music and enjoy it immensly. I always wear a
full-face helmet and ear protection. Always. With this gear, I really
can't hear much anyway, unless it is quite loud. I would never be able to
hear a car engine, only a horn or siren. This is all I can hear with or
without music. In addition, I live in rural New Hampshire. There is rarely
a time that I have to ride in traffic. When that is the case, I don't bring
my music. I think I'm pretty safety conscious, and weigh the risks. Music
is wonderful during some of the lonely commutes I have. I am as careful as
I can be. If I wanted more safety, I would probably have to give up the
motorcycle. It is worth it to me.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Maxwell" <>
To: "'Rockbox development'" <>
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 6:44 AM
Subject: Motorcycling, Archos, Hearing, and safety.

> > hey - that's just my personal opinion too and a good meant advice to
> > concentrate on traffic as a biker - you always loose and you have no
> > deformable zone like a car.
> I've been riding motorcycles for over 30 years and I know damned well that
> if you hear a car before you see it, you're not paying attention. You
> normally don't hear cars while riding at speed on the highway with a
> full-face helmet on. The wind noise and motor noise drowns out any sound
> until it is far too late to avoid an accident. In fact, most riders now
> know that they need to use earplugs to avoid permanent hearing loss from
> wind noise:
> A fully faired Honda Goldwing may be quiet enough that cars can be heard,
> but that's not your typical bike and most of the 'Wing riders have a
> cranked up anyway.
> As to the "deformable zone", that's a rather selfish way to approach
> any vehicle. Do you want some guy in a cage to be listening to the stereo
> blasting while eating lunch, figuring that it's okay if he runs into you
> because he's got a deformable zone? "See, I was in my car so I was pretty
> safe. That's why I wasn't really paying attention when I ran over your
> kid."
> Regards,
> Fred Maxwell
> _______________________________________________

Received on 2004-06-07

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