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Subject: Re: What happened to the SDK for Dadio? (hipzip hacking anyone?)
From: Joseph Jones (joe_at_bumpycarrot.cjb.net)
Note to self: Check the licensing for eCos before posting.
eCos was never released under the GPL proper. Prior to May '02 it was
released under the RHEPL, since then it's been under the eCos license,
which is essentially a compromise of the RHEPL to make it GPL compatible.
As such, I find it likely that the source code for Dadio was never released.
Joseph Jones wrote:
> I don't think the I-Jam or HipZip are realistic port targets. I don't
> think Pocket Zip disks were all that popular, and I-Jam couldn't seem to
> be able to make their mind up on whether they wanted to use MMC cards or
> CF in their players.
> Not to mention that these players are so old that the I-Jam and iObject
> websites don't even exist anymore :( As for Dadio SDK, I got very few
> hits on google when I searched for it (two pages). I did however find
> the eCos kernel by RedHat. Turns out that Dadio is not Linux. It's based
> on Redhat's own eCos kernel, which is open source... So unless RedHat
> had a seperate license for Interactive Objects, Dadio should be open
> source as well. But I find it quite likely that they did have a seperate
> license, since the eCos kernel doesn't appear to support any Pocket Zip
> stuart wrote:
>> First off, thanks for the web site resource - don't know where I would
>> have gotten the specifications for the ISD200 ATA/USB chip otherwise.
>> Off to some fun stuff...
>> When I realized the HipZip used the same ATA/USB controller as the
>> RockBox I started wondering if the HipZip (a "defunked" mp3 player -
>> mostly because it had limited removable storage **) could control
>> large compact flash cards or even a hard drive.
>> From inspection of the circuit... it looks like it could. But there
>> is always the problem that the embedded firmware (Dadio, a Linux
>> derivative I believe) is hard coded at 40MBytes.
>> So I am looking, after finding some internet chatter about it, for the
>> Dadio SDK. So far it looks like it was talked about around March of
>> 2000 but never released.
>> The Dadio / Linux firmware was supposed to be used on the HipZip and
>> the I-Jam mp3 players. I don't know if either of these are still on
>> the market. One encouraging note, the I-Jam players appear to use
>> compact flash cards!
>> **HipZip players used a small (about a inch wide) 40MByte removable
>> disk. At $10 each, it wasn't long until flash cards passed them up in
>> terms of Bytes per dollars. Add to that, I have personally destroyed
>> at least 3 disks of my own (i.e. Don't stare at them to long or they
>> will fall apart).
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