From: rinty <rinty_at_freeuk.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 20:22:57 +0100

Oh sorry I use the AT&T Mike voice to generate my clips, and you're
right the MS voices sound rubbish. I'm guessing that the AT&T voices
would be about the best you can get. When I spoke about bit rates
earlier, the voice synths, even the best of them, sound less good if
you use more than 56KBPS mono, 22500 sampling. Therefore you're just
wasting space if you do.

Rob

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From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se
[mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On Behalf Of rinty
Sent: 07 October 2004 19:32
To: Rockbox development
Subject: RE: new voice UI feature: file name clips


Hi Guys, speaking as one of the blind users, I'd quite like to be able
to just run the programme and get all my filenames and directories
done in 1 easy step. I'd be quite happy to go off and have dinner
whilst it does it's stuff. The thing is though that that could be
made an option when running the script????

Rob

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From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se
[mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On Behalf Of Brian Wolven
Sent: 07 October 2004 18:20
To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
Subject: Re: new voice UI feature: file name clips


[IDC]Dragon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> it quickly sank down in all the cvs traffic we have with iriver
> preparations, so I better post it:
>
> The voice option for file names has a new option. This is patch
#978765 by
> Carsten Tschach. Like with directories, you can now accompany any
file with
> a little mp3 clip file containing the spoken filename (or, whatever
sound
> helps you, it could be a sample as well). This extra file has the
same name,
> but extended with ".talk", so e.g. "myfile.mp3" would get a
> "myfile.mp3.talk" next to it.
>
> It's up to you how many and what kind of files you'd like to
"comment" with
> such clip files, it sure clutters the disk if done for all. But
it's a
> simple approach, lightweight on Rockbox and easy to understand (I
hope).

This will be nice for navigating my playlists while driving; currently
I have
them moved into individual subfolders to obtain the voicing. I can't
see ever
using it for music files, but some of our Blind friends may want that
option,
and perhaps the audio book listeners who listen while driving.

> We now need a script to generate such files... (Brian?)

I'll update the script ASAP. It may be best to make separate versions
so that
nobody "accidentally" makes clips for all their songs. I can imagine
that taking
a *looooong* time.

As far as the script is concerned, have you found a certain set of
parameters
for the SAPI voices and LAME that generates better sounding clips than
others? I
know that some of the versions that were tried (in order to keep
things
compatible with the digital output, for instance) made clips that
sounded very
"scratchy", as if there were a lot of high frequency noise.

> While at it, I have removed the "on enter" directory clip option.
Nobody
> seems to use it. Voice settings for files and directories are now
identical.

Sounds fine. I never used "on enter" personally.

> The file voicing produces a lot of disk activity, when enabled. For
every
> file you stop at, it goes and looks if there is a .talk clip. In
the future,
> this may get cached, so you only get spinups for the clips that
exist.

Would it be easier to implement a per-directory setting for this,
i.e., only
look for file voice clips in directories that are flagged to permit
this? Or
would checking for the presence of such a flag generate almost as much
activity?
I'd only use it on a very limited basis, but I suppose I could just
toggle it on
and off with config files, as needed.

> One last thing: With today's build, the config block has changed
once more,
> so you need to play your favourite config file again.

Ahh - I'd probably want to voice files in the folder where I store
configs, too.

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Received on 2004-10-07