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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: ID3 database browsingRe: ID3 database browsing
From: Neon John <johngd_at_bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:15:00 -0400 On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:02:23 +0100 (BST), dave_at_beermex.com wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:56:01 +0200, Linus Nielsen Feltzing <linus_at_haxx.se> >> wrote: >> >> >>>I really want an ID3 database in Rockbox, but we need to find a decent >>>solution that doesn't slow down the browser too much, eat up all RAM, or >>>drain the batteries due to extensive disk access. >> >> I guess I don't understand the need for this. Assuming a well organized >> file hierarchy, what additional info would an ID3 browser bring to the >> table? >> >> With >8000 files on my 80 gig machine I've never felt the need for >> anything more than the simple file browser. What am I missing? > >With a well-organised file hierarchy, how do you find a single song, by >song title, if you can't remember the name of the artist, or the album, on >which it is on? >Or how can you browse to find a song that you know was released in 2002, >but you can't remember the title I've never had any problems along those lines. I know my collection quite well so maybe that's a factor. >> I think a line should be drawn in the sand against any dependence on a >> host computer. The archos should be able to do any database manipulation >> without being tethered to a computer. Requiring a desktop-based >> application would put Rockbox down in the same class with the neuros, ipod >> and all the other crappy tethered players. I have no problem with there >> being a PC application that duplicates what the archos does, only faster. > >I disagree. For example, the archos player needs to be connected to a >host PC (to get new tracks copied onto it ...). Change that to "any host PC" and re-evaluate. >So we're never going to >be decoupled from all host computer interaction. If one extra step takes >twenty seconds on the host PC (vs. an hour and 50% of the battery if the >Rockbox was doing it itself) then I think we should recommend the former. We're decoupled now. I can move files to/from literally any machine that has the necessary USB drivers. Consider my vacation last summer. I got stuck for 6 days far away from home with a blown transmission in my motorhome. I ran out of audio books to listen to. I went to my friend's house where I was visiting, connected my JBR to his computer, ftp'd into my file server and got a number of additional books. I quickly file managered them over to the Archos. Had I been tethered to some sort of PC software I'd have been screwed since he (correctly, I think) didn't want any foreign software loaded on his box. As for time and battery, I can't see any problem with letting a machine sit overnight connected to the charger indexing away. Not something you'd do every day. With the appropriate aftermarket wall wart (I use the Rat shack 1 amp switchmode unit), the batteries are NOT drained by continuous drive activity. I've done this often enough to know. I think it's a great idea to have a PC-based utility that does the job faster. I just don't want to see RockBox lose its autonomy. To me that is a MAJOR feature. Realize that even with a PC-based indexing utility, one is still going to have the JBR's hard drive running most of the time since it will have to work against the JBR's file system. I doubt that many people keep an exact backup of their jukeboxes on their PCs. I certainly don't. I keep complete albums on my PC. I tend to eliminate songs I don't like and, particularly for one-hit-wonders, and glom all the songs I do like in the band's directory. Seems to me that a simple file manager-like file name search feature would do most of what is desired, probably more than enough. I WOULD like to be able to search for a particular file, especially in my non-audio portion of my drive. An index system would make it faster but I'm not sure it's worth the overhead. John --- John De Armond johngdDONTYOUDARE_at_bellsouth.net http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/ Cleveland, Occupied TN _______________________________________________ http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockboxReceived on 2004-10-14 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |