From: Glenn at home <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:19:45 -0600

There may be a similar agreement for the demo, which we typically click on
"Yes" to during the installation.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Wright" <gymnastdave_at_sbcglobal.net>
To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "Rockbox"
<rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>; <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Voices


I am currently using real speak, which
is a TTS software that came with my OCR
scanning software. I know that
realspeak has a website where they allow
you to download demos of these TTS
voices. Couldn't we use demos of such
TTS programs, because as a result of
them ling demos they aren't exactly
licensed and are considered freeware?
Dave

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Glenn at home"
<GlennErvin_at_cableone.net
>To: "rob powell" <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>,
"Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
>Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:49:57 -0600
>Subject: Re: Voices

>I sure don't understand how they can
copyright my work.
>If I type in the words to be generated,
it is my work.
>That makes it sound like the artificial
speech is gaining the status to
>obtain a copyright.
>Maybe if we go ahead, aT&T will assist
Crystal and Mike to sue RockBox!
>I wonder how Crystal & Mike feel about
this?
>LOL.
>This folly seems to not be in the best
interest of aT&T nor the other
>companies that sell these voices, as
there are other voices out there for
>people to use for other things which do
meet their guidelines, and one would
>think that aT&T would want their voices
to be the most well recognized.
>Glenn

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "rob powell" <rob_at_rinty.plus.com
>To: "Glenn at home"
<GlennErvin_at_cableone.net>; "Rockbox"
><rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:39 AM
>Subject: RE: Voices


>The way I read it, the spokenness is
copyrighted too.

>Rob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se
>[mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On
Behalf Of Glenn at home
>Sent: 30 January 2006 15:24
>To: Rockbox
>Subject: Re: Voices


>I thought that it only referred to
copyrighted material.
>Glenn

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "rob powell" <rob_at_rinty.plus.com
>To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:21 AM
>Subject: RE: Voices


>OK, I've had a look at my ATNT licence,
and it's quite unequivocal I'm
>afraid, it says that if you use the file
to generate something spoken the
>spoken output is still covered, and you
can't distribute it. Daniel's said
>don't do anything, as I read his
message, Jorge says do it. I'd really
want
>something a bit more definite from the
rockbox crew if I were going to try
>it. What I do know is, that Ken White's
done a lot to make his software
>products accessible to blind users, and
he's committed to that project.

>Rob

>-----Original Message-----
>From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se
>[mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se]On
Behalf Of [IDC]Dragon
>Sent: 30 January 2006 13:55
>To: Rockbox
>Subject: RE: Voices


>> Do we still have a problem if we buy
the AT&T voices from next-up.com?

>The voice files have been made with
Jens' legally purchased (in germany)
>license.

>The email came from wizzardsoftware.com,
who seem to sell U.S. licenses.
>They accuse Jens of "distributing AT&T
Natural VoicesR TTS software", which
>is not the case. They say we don't have
distribution rights (correct, we
>can't and won't distribute the AT&T
software) and want money per downloaded
>copy. Perhaps they or their script just
googled around for AT&T files and
>didn't look what's actually there for
download.

>A different issue came into attention:
>The click-through license is strange
with respect to wether it's allowed to
>let the software speak into files and
noncommercially distribute those, or
>not. One sentence sais yes, another one
reads like a no. This may really
>hinder future AT&T voice file
distribution.

>> also
>> I know Ken White who runs next-up.com,
who I think distribute the voices
>> in
>> the US, would it help if I got in touch
with him about this?

>Interesting. If they have any "power"
over wizzardsoftware, or can offer a
>licensing which we're legally safe with,
yes.

>Jörg

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