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Subject: RE: voice UI while audio stopped in latest builds

RE: voice UI while audio stopped in latest builds

From: Andrew Hart <>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:38:18 -0400


I understood what you said the first time and I do agree. However,
what you are reporting is, to the best of my knowledge, a recent
issue. Older versions of Rockbox did not do this or did it very
intermittently at worst. Now it does it all the time. It could
possibly be related to the other problems folks like Jamie have been
reporting with the voice UI.


At 10:31 10-04-2006, you wrote:
>Hi Andrew,
>As a blind voice user, I must say, I wish that it would not talk when you
>press the select key on a file. I reported this last night, but basically,
>you select a file with the arrows, and it gets either spelled or numbered.
>You hit select to play it, and the speech is repeated. This is just
>unnecessary speech in my view, the second time. We only need to hear the
>files as they are selected with the arrow keys. I don't think it needs to
>speak at all when the MP3 files are playing. Rockbox has always voiced
>these files twice, and it is just wasted verbage.
>All the best
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [] On
>Behalf Of Andrew Hart
>Sent: 10 April 2006 14:52
>To: Rockbox
>Subject: Re: voice UI while audio stopped in latest builds
>Hi there. I can confirm what Jamie has found. He beat me to reporting it
>though as I didn't have a Net connection available on the week-end.
>In fact, this is probably to be expected while bug-fixing is going on, etc.,
>but I thought I'd let everyone know just in case they're not already aware
>of it.
>Since the code freeze, the voice support appears to be getting worse and
>worse in terms of performance.
>At the moment, while playing audio, the menus sometimes speak and sometimes
>don't. Also, the fade-out-fade-in sequence that occurs while the menus
>speak is not correctly synching with the speech properly. It used to be the
>case that you would hear rapid fade-out, menu item spoken, rapid fade in.
>Now, I can sometimes here the menu item while the fade-out is occurring. It
>seems as though there may besome kind of timing/queueing problem.
>Also, this has been mentioned before, but transitions between voice clips,
>as well as audio files being played themselves (such as when
>fast-forwarding/rewinding or track skipping) occasionally produce an audible
>artifact which sounds like "chihk" or like a really short burst of white
>noise. I started noticing this a week or two before the code freeze.
>At 22:19 09-04-2006, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Now that I have a voice file which will work with the latest builds
> >(see previous messages), I have discovered a bug which only applies to
> >these later builds, perhaps because of the pcmbuf/playback code
> >changes. On an Iriver H300 (and I suspect other SWCODEC platforms),
> >once playback has occurred, the voice UI will not work while playback
> >is stopped. The only fix is to power off and on. To
> >duplicate:
> >1. If resume on startup is enabled, disable it and power off and on.
> >2. Access the menu. Observe that voice works correctly.
> >3. Play an audio file.
> >4. While playing, access the menu again. Observe that voice works
> >correctly, mixing with the audio as it should.
> >5. Stop the audio file.
> >6. Access the menu again. Observe that voice does not speak.
> >7. Play audio again. Observe that the last voice clip that should have
> >been played (but did not play) while audio was stopped is played.
> >
> >Btw, my Microsoft Sam voice file can be found at:
> >
> >I haven't bothered to tweak the default settings in makevoices.vbs at
> >all; I just made it to test the latest builds.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Jamie
> >
> >--
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> >Yahoo: jcs_teh
Received on 2006-04-10

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