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Subject: RE:PM3 clip and Ipod.

RE:PM3 clip and Ipod.

From: Rob Powell <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:30:20 +0100

maurice, the problem is that the setting isn't being saved. What you
need to do is, to go into the menus, turn on talk MP3 clip, then
press "enter" the select button I think it's called on the ipod, then
it'll hopefully save the settings. I'm not sure that that part of my
mail made it through to the list, so am wriging it again, forgive if
you've tried it. I've found that the newer versions of rockbox tend
to be a bit tempramental about saving settings, not least the time and date.

RobAt 07:32 25/06/2006, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>OK, now I've done all as directed but still find that when I switch the
>player on, I don't get MP3 clips unless I turn them on again.
>perhaps they're not being saved.
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: charging questions (Linus Nielsen Feltzing)
> 2. Ipod query. (Maurice Press)
> 3. Re: Ipod query. (Rob Powell)
> 4. Re: Ipod Query. (Dave Hooper)
> 5. Re: MP3 clip and contravercial FM radio comment (Dave Hooper)
> 6. Any news from rockbox 3.0 ? (newbeewan)
> 7. Re: MP3 clip and contravercial FM radio comment (Rob Powell)
> 8. Re: charging questions (Stephan Seitz)
> 9. Re: charging questions (James Teh)
> 10. Re: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ? (Grant Hardy)
> 11. Re: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ? (James Teh)
> 12. Iriver H300 series battery condition (was RE: Any news from
> rockbox 3.0 ?) (Adrian Beech)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:01:35 +0200
>From: Linus Nielsen Feltzing <linus_at_haxx.se>
>Subject: Re: charging questions
>To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <449D0D7F.9020100_at_haxx.se>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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>James Teh wrote:
> > As a matter of curiosity, what was the problem with having the H300 boot
> > straight into Rockbox when the charger is connected?
> > I guess it has to spin up the hard drive to boot Rockbox, so there'd
> > have to be some sort of charging screen in the bootloader, but I get the
> > impression that there were other reasons that this didn't work.
>
>We (I) decided that, until we were sure how the charging hardware
>worked, it was better to let the iriver firmware do the charging. This
>is why the bootloader starts the iriver firmware when you insert the
>charger.
>
>Now we know how it works, so it's only a matter of updating the bootloader.
>
>Linus
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:30:01 +0100
>From: "Maurice Press" <mauricepress_at_enterprise.net>
>Subject: Ipod query.
>To: "Rockbox mailing list" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID:
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>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi list,
>Now I've managed to sort ou MP3 clip I am delighted. However, I have a
>query.
> When I turn my ipod on, its silent until I press the top button when I
>get the usual main menu. If I press it again
> Then its silent.
>So, what I have to do is go into General and select MP3 clips again for
>both files and Directories. So, I'm probably not saving this properly.
>I have to say I'm delighted with the Ipod although you have to be a bit
>agile with your fingers as a blind person to select the correct menu item.
>
>Thanks list.
>
>MAURICE PRESS
>MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE DISABILITY RESOURCE TEAM.
>
>PLEASE SEE OUR WEBSITE:
>HTTP//WWW.DISABILITYRESOURCETEAM.COM
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:55:42 +0100
>From: Rob Powell <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>
>Subject: Re: Ipod query.
>To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060624115450.0224d580_at_rinty.plus.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi Maurice, When you select any item in a menu, press the select,
>(middle) to confirm the setting, and it should, (not used an ipod
>though) retain the selections.
>
>RobAt 11:30 24/06/2006, you wrote:
> >Hi list,
> >Now I've managed to sort ou MP3 clip I am delighted. However, I have a
> >query.
> > When I turn my ipod on, its silent until I press the top button when I
> >get the usual main menu. If I press it again
> > Then its silent.
> >So, what I have to do is go into General and select MP3 clips again for
> >both files and Directories. So, I'm probably not saving this properly.
> >I have to say I'm delighted with the Ipod although you have to be a bit
> >agile with your fingers as a blind person to select the correct menu item.
> >
> >Thanks list.
> >
> >MAURICE PRESS
> >MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE DISABILITY RESOURCE TEAM.
> >
> >PLEASE SEE OUR WEBSITE:
> >HTTP//WWW.DISABILITYRESOURCETEAM.COM
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:14:32 +0100
>From: "Dave Hooper" <dave_at_beermex.com>
>Subject: Re: Ipod Query.
>To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <005c01c6977f$62d90b70$8200a8c0_at_SLAPTOP>
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>
>Just press the middle button. Don't hold it down - just give it a quick
>press.. it will take you to the file browser straight away!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Maurice Press" <mauricepress_at_enterprise.net>
>To: "Rockbox mailing list" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:57 AM
>Subject: Ipod Query.
>
>
> > Hi,
> > A simple question which I just can't work out the answer.
> >
> > Whilst playing a track on my Ipod, How do I get back to another album.
> > If
> > I press the top button it takes me back to the main menu. Left button
> > goes
> > back a track and right goes forward, If I hold down the middle button
> > then
> > I get the equalisation menu.
> > So,whilst playing say the Eagles, how do I go back to choosing another
> > album
> > without turning the ipod off which is what I've been doing.
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > MAURICE PRESS
> > MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE DISABILITY RESOURCE TEAM.
> >
> > PLEASE SEE OUR WEBSITE:
> > HTTP//WWW.DISABILITYRESOURCETEAM.COM
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:17:47 +0100
>From: "Dave Hooper" <dave_at_beermex.com>
>Subject: Re: MP3 clip and contravercial FM radio comment
>To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <006b01c6977f$d70f4220$8200a8c0_at_SLAPTOP>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> > I'm wondering however, whether at some point or another, we'll get an
> > MP3
> > player with DAB. This is of course the way to go.
>
>Well, imho, DAB is not that great .. in practice it's just low (~128kbps)
>bitrate mpeg2 audio. But combining a dab receiver with a digital audio
>player makes sense (it wouldn't even be that expensive, I would have
>thought..)
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:35:48 +0200
>From: newbeewan <newbeewan_at_nativobject.com>
>Subject: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ?
>To: Rockbox development <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <449D31A4.3080405_at_nativobject.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>Hi,
>
>As I saw some big pb solved (such as power drain of iH300), is there any
>date for the official rb 3.0 ?
>
>Regards
>
>Mourad
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:06:52 +0100
>From: Rob Powell <rob_at_rinty.plus.com>
>Subject: Re: MP3 clip and contravercial FM radio comment
>To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20060624140423.02256de0_at_rinty.plus.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi, the situation is that they're alrady available. Perstel, Pure
>digital Morphy Richards and Sanyo all make these units in the
>UK. The pure is about the only unit that'll allow you to record from
>the DAB to the MP3 player, via SD card. I agree with Dave re the
>quality of DAB, and would add that within 5 years it's likely that
>DAB won't be the predominant, and certainly won't be the only digital
>radio format. L-band and DRM, (digital AM) will both be available
>widely by then.
>
>RobAt 12:17 24/06/2006, you wrote:
> >>I'm wondering however, whether at some point or another, we'll get an
>MP3
> >>player with DAB. This is of course the way to go.
> >
> >Well, imho, DAB is not that great .. in practice it's just low
> >(~128kbps) bitrate mpeg2 audio. But combining a dab receiver with a
> >digital audio player makes sense (it wouldn't even be that
> >expensive, I would have thought..)
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:57:16 +0200
>From: Stephan Seitz <nur-ab-sal_at_gmx.de>
>Subject: Re: charging questions
>To: rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se
>Message-ID: <20060624T1556.GA.d51dd.stse_at_fsing.rootsland.net>
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>On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:01:35PM +0200, Linus Nielsen Feltzing wrote:
> >Now we know how it works, so it's only a matter of updating the
> >bootloader.
>
>Great. Do you have a date set when we can expect a new bootloader?
>
>Shade and sweet water!
>
> Stephan
>
>--
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>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:19:40 +1000
>From: James Teh <jamie_at_jantrid.net>
>Subject: Re: charging questions
>To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <449DC88C.4090102_at_jantrid.net>
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>Jens Arnold wrote:
> >> wonder why Rockbox doesn't drop the user into the charging
> >> screen when the user requests a power down instead of leaving
> >> them in the browser/WPS.
> > This is by design. There is no difference in letting it charge
> > in a special charging screen and letting it charge in the
> > browser. So why bother having a special charging screen?
>Actually, I did think of one reason. Currently, if you disconnect the
>charger, because the main Rockbox application is loaded, it will not
>power off until idle timeout, so you have to disconnect and then power
>off. The charging screen ensures that once the user has shut Rockbox
>down, disconnecting from the charger will power off the hardware
>immediately. This seems a minor detail, but having to turn the unit off
>once disconnecting from the charger is a bit of a nuisance, given that
>the charging screen has already been implemented (although I guess it
>could be difficult to use this code in this case; I am not sure).
>
>Jamie
>
>
>--
>James Teh
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>Message: 10
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:33:09 -0700
>From: "Grant Hardy" <grant_hardy_at_telus.net>
>Subject: Re: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ?
>To: "Rockbox" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <00ac01c697e6$8f157c20$6700a8c0_at_GRANT>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
> reply-type=response
>
>The power drain's been solved? When? I still don't see much difference on
>my h340's power consumption. How long should the battery be lasting now?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "newbeewan" <newbeewan_at_nativobject.com>
>To: "Rockbox development" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:35 AM
>Subject: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ?
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As I saw some big pb solved (such as power drain of iH300), is there any
> > date for the official rb 3.0 ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mourad
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:23:39 +1000
>From: James Teh <jamie_at_jantrid.net>
>Subject: Re: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ?
>To: Rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <449DD78B.4030900_at_jantrid.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>Grant Hardy wrote:
> > The power drain's been solved? When?
>As of about a week ago.
> > I still don't see much difference
> > on my h340's power consumption. How long should the battery be lasting
> > now?
>"How long should the battery be lasting" is a rather subjective
>question. It depends on your battery's condition. It should now last the
>same time or more than with the Iriver firmware. With a relatively new
>stock battery, you might get 17 hours or so; check the IriverRuntime
>wiki page for actual tests.
>
>Jamie
>
>--
>James Teh
>Email: jamie_at_jantrid.net
>WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/
>MSN Messenger: jamie_at_jantrid.net
>Jabber: jteh_at_jabber.org
>Yahoo: jcs_teh
>
>
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>
>Message: 12
>Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:13:41 +1000
>From: "Adrian Beech" <a.beech_at_bigpond.net.au>
>Subject: Iriver H300 series battery condition (was RE: Any news from
> rockbox 3.0 ?)
>To: "'Rockbox'" <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
>Message-ID: <003d01c697f4$98f49ce0$0a0510ac_at_minbari>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>G'day folks,
>
>Now this might seem like a rather daffy question but I was wondering if
>earlier builds of Rockbox for the H300 series could, in any way, affect the
>overall (physical) condition of the battery?
>
>As I said it's probably a daft question... :)
>
>Cheers.
>AB
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
>Behalf Of James Teh
>Sent: Sunday, 25 June 2006 10:24 AM
>To: Rockbox
>Subject: Re: Any news from rockbox 3.0 ?
>
>
>Grant Hardy wrote:
> > The power drain's been solved? When?
>As of about a week ago.
> > I still don't see much difference
> > on my h340's power consumption. How long should the battery be lasting
> > now? "How long should the battery be lasting" is a rather subjective
>question. It depends on your battery's condition. It should now last the
>same time or more than with the Iriver firmware. With a relatively new
>stock battery, you might get 17 hours or so; check the IriverRuntime
>wiki page for actual tests.
>
>Jamie
>
>--
>James Teh
>Email: jamie_at_jantrid.net
>WWW: http://www.jantrid.net/jamie/
>MSN Messenger: jamie_at_jantrid.net
>Jabber: jteh_at_jabber.org
>Yahoo: jcs_teh
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