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Subject: RE: Archos Recorder V1 - Recordings Clipping

RE: Archos Recorder V1 - Recordings Clipping

From: Bluechip <>
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:38:55 +0000

>Sounds like either the dynamic range of your little microphone or the JBR
>isn't working on the same scale as Soundforge.

That would make sense of it! Thank You.

>Dynamic mics that small? Hmm, I'd be a bit dubious of the potential full
>range of frequencies you could get from that, though I guess if you're happy
>then that's fine.

Yeah. To be honest I was expecting to have to go and get the SM-5*'s
(58 for me, 57 for the guitar) and mixing desk and hook it all up to
the PC ...but the recordings that came out of the little
condenser-pair via the Archos were more than good enough to give to a
loved one, who essentially will like it, not for the production, but
for the fact it was recorded for them.

>One thing though - make sure you save the original raw recordings you make,

Oh goD yes! NEVER erase your masters!

>I've had it in the past (before my recording skills matured to the point
>where I realised this) where I've made a recording of something, dolloped
>effects, verb, chorus onto it, then months or years later gone back to it
>and thought, bloody hell, it sounds awful with all that reverb on, just
>completely ruins it - I wish I could notch it down so it was only _just_
>perceivable (and I've since learnt that the best applications of reverb are
>in situations where you don't notice it), or possibly get rid of it

I agree 100% Beginners LOVE to smother their recordings in "in the
bath" style reverb. Which is all very good if you can't sing, but
not very nice if you can.

I put my effects on with ACID. This means that the master is never
touched. It's not really what ACID was designed for, but it does the
job perfectly - AND LEAVES THE MASTERS IN TACT :-)

>So, I always keep a copy of the raw audio alongside any processed versions I
>make, too... Hopefully you already learnt to do these kinda things yourself
>(it's just common sense really, ain't it) but if I'd saved the original
>recordings of some of my earlier stuff it would've made my life a WHOLE load
>easier more recently. I sense something about learning the hard way being

One day I will work out how to transfer all my ancient 4-track
recordings onto the PC.

If you want to go right off topic, or chat to me off-group ...I'd
love to know how to get my old 4-track recordings on to a PC and
synched. I've worked out how to get 3 tracks off, but can't work out
how to get the 4th ...then the horrific job of trying to clean them up - LOL.


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mat holton []
> > Sent: 07 December 2006 09:15
> > To: Rockbox
> > Subject: Re: Archos Recorder V1 - Recordings Clipping
> >
> > Bluechip wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I somehow feel that my question is most likely not about
> > Rockbox, but
> > > about the Archos Jukebox V1 itself - but I could always be
> > wrong (it
> > > has happened before <shhh>).
> > >
> > > I have an official Archos stereo collar/clip-mic: A pair of
> > condenser
> > > mics in a little tube with a battery box mid-cable. The
> > battery box
> > > holds a 1.5V AAA cell and a small amplifier circuit built out of
> > > transistors (two per side if I recall correctly). There is also a
> > > "volume" wheel which I leave on max.
> > >
> > > My girlfriend asks me to record a particular song for her
> > [how cute is
> > > that?] ...So I plug it all in, clip the mic to the washing airer at
> > > about chest level and aim me and my acoustic guitar (?my acoustic
> > > guitar and I?) at it.
> > >
> > > The recordings are INCREDIBLY clean given the nature of the whole
> > > setup (cheap mp3 recorder, cheap mic, poor room acoustics,
> > etc.) ...A
> > > little chorus+reverb+eq (in that order fwiw) and I'm not
> > the only one
> > > to be impressed at the quality of the recordings. (The less
> > said about
> > > my musical skills the better, possibly.)
> > >
> > > So there I am ...just about to tweak the gain to maximise/normalise
> > > the track so that the final volume is 'acceptable' ...and I noticed
> > > something which strikes me as strange ...There is clipping on the
> > > original recording at "-6dB" [Says soundForge v8]
> > >
> > > I'm used to working through a PC where you have considerably more
> > > headroom than that.
> > >
> > > What am I missing which may help me understand why this clipping is
> > > occuring?
> > >
> > > BC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Let's hear it!
Received on 2006-12-07

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