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Subject: Re: FW: [users] Slow Monday -- No Bots?

Re: FW: [users] Slow Monday -- No Bots?

From: Jerry Van Baren <>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:30:21 -0500 wrote:
> Quoting Daniel Stenberg <>:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Christopher Woods wrote:
>>> - PLEASE obfuscate our email addresses when they appear on the web
>>> archives!
>> Feel free to submit your patches for hypermail or additional front-end
>> scripts.
>> And do get a proper spam filter since spam is here for real and us
>> changing the apparence of the archives will not cure this disease.
>> (I get several thousand spams per day.)
>> -- Daniel Stenberg -- --
> I am fully aware spam is here to stay, but changing the appearance of
> the archives imho WOULD make a difference, if only a small one - every
> time a bot scrapes the pages, that's one more list our addresses are on.
> Take away the email addresses and it won't "unring the bell" as the
> person in the email is quoted as saying, but surely you agree it's
> better to be proactive and try your best, whatever you can do, to curb
> the further spread of personal addresses across the web?
> The fact is that my email and webspace provider is fairly competent and
> provides me with a very good service for what I pay; the fact remains
> that as a site admin running a mailing list with a web interface, to me
> it's just common sense to obfuscate email addresses. It affects
> everyone, not just me, and as a responsible admin I would do my best to
> help protect my list members' addresses from finding their way into the
> public domain from a private list.
> Just my opinion.
> And in reference to the person who mentioned the obfuscated source - for
> a fair while I've read about scrapers which can parse pages and read
> them just like a regular browser would present the content to a user,
> and bots which can parse and run in-page javascript to deobfuscate
> addresses, so I think obfuscating addresses in the source and having the
> browser show them in the clear via means of a script onload is a false
> economy, because all the spambots can do that now too.

Microsoft reports that they found malware on 60% of the Windows PCs they
looked at. 60%! <BOGGLE>

How many people that are subscribed to this list run Windows? All it
takes is *one* PC with some spyware on it to leak your address. It is
arguably more likely that the leaks are (unwittingly) from list
subscribers (or your friends, assuming you use the same email address)
than from the web archives. :-(

Received on 2007-02-20

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