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Subject: Re: How accessible is rbutil for the blinds ?

Re: How accessible is rbutil for the blinds ?

From: Robin Christopherson <>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:20:41 +0100

Peter and Dominik

If you press Ins+Ctrl+G when you are on all the main tab pages and in any
other dialogs that pop up then this runs Jaws' graphics labeller and Jaws
usually reports that at least two graphics are labelled. I found that doing
this correctly labels those elusive buttons you've been talking about. I'm
guessing this means they must have icons instead of text on them, but that
they do have tooltips that pop up when you hover a mouse over them - and
this is what Jaws grabs to label the button.

After doing this there is still one other button on each main tab page that
is still just read as 'control button', however, which my wife informs me is
just a Rockbox logo and if you press enter on it it doesn't do anything so
it isn't really a button. Instead of messing around with the windows
reclassing manager I just used Ins+Ctrl+Tab to assign a control prompt to it
of 'Rockbox logo' and now I just ignore it when I come across it in the
tabbing order.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, Robin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Herngaard" <>
To: "Rockbox" <>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: How accessible is rbutil for the blinds ?

> Hello Dominik
> JAWS still reports the buttons as "Please select an option [Button)."
> Perhaps, there is another place in the code where the Please select an
> option is assigned to the applicable control.
> I have noticed a new tab called Manual. In this tab there are some
> controls
> which are not accessible,
> If the first control under Manual tab now labelled as Rockbox PDF manual
> is
> only a clickable control, which I can't say for sure, there is no problem,
> however if PDF manual is intended as a multiselection (PDF
> manual/online/HTML et cetera) there is no way by which a JAWS user would
> be
> able to make a selection.
> In case that the Control Rockbox PDF manual is a multiselection, using a
> combobox would solve the screen reader accessibility issue.
> Best Wishes,
> Peter Herngaard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dominik Wenger" <
> To: "Peter Herngaard" <
> ; "Rockbox" <
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:39 AM
> Subject: Re: How accessible is rbutil for the blinds ?
>> Peter Herngaard schrieb:
>>> Hello Dominik
>>> Thank you very much for the update.
>>> After changing the Windows class and Control ID to combobox, JAWS now
>>> works fine with device selection in the RbUtil program (for reference
>>> However, the text prompts assigned to the buttons in the Installation,
>>> Extras and Uninstallation tab still report as Please select an option
>>> (button).
>> I have now added Labels for this buttons, and i hope Jaws can read this.
>> It would be nice if you could try this.
>> You can find a windows binary at:
>> thanks for testing.
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