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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: IPOD 80 gb and rockbox helpRe: IPOD 80 gb and rockbox help
From: Kane Brolin <kbrolin65_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:24:39 -0400 Michael, in case you want more of a hands-on approach than what RBUtil gives you, try going onto the Rockbox daily build site and use the latest file, designed for the iPod Video. The identification # is R14660. Even though I have the 30 GB instead of your 80 GB, I believe the same build will work for all models in the iPod Video line. Then reference the detailed instructions I wrote last month, which are reproduced below. I wish you success with this. Write to me personally if you need more help. ======================================== I think the strength of these instructions lies in the fact that I am a newcomer to the iPod, having used one now for less than three months. But as someone who has been his own primary technical support agent for the last 14 years, I think I've learned a lot about boiling processes down into easy-to-understand steps that will produce repeatable results if done right. Rockbox is a program that involves many moving parts that aren't found just in one executable program or on just one Web page. So this is for those people who have been frustrated by the difficulties of pulling everything together. In writing these steps I have made two key presumptions: My first presumption is that anyone reading this is using a relatively new iPod: the fourth generation iPod Grayscale, the fifth generation iPod Video, or the Nano. The iPod Shuffle, from what I understand, is an entirely different animal; I never have used one. I know there are variations in terms of which software applies to which iPods. The Rockbox site is not easy for one to navigate from the outset; but I can help anyone off-list who simply can't find his/her correct version of Rockbox. My second presumption is that the user is totally without eyesight, as I am. So I am presuming that someone here might be using a Braille or speech output system to interact with what is on the screen in an alternative way. I am most familiar with a speech/Braille access program known as Job Access With Speech (JAWS) for Windows, which is produced by Freedom Scientific, a company based in Florida of the USA. Henceforth, I will refer to this software piece as JAWS or JFW. I am also presuming that a totally blind user of iTunes will be using a JAWS add-on program called J-tunes, which was developed by a firm called T&T Consultancy that is based in Birmingham, England. This JAWS interface for iTunes is not free, but it is worthwhile. The full license costs about 35 GBP, or $100 U.S. if you go through the North American distributor. I know there may be other ways to read iTunes screens with voice or Braille, as through the Window-Eyes screen access program produced by GW Micro. I've never used that program or any set files from it, though; so any references I make toward access for the blind will be in the direction of JAWS. You can download the J-tunes scripts from http://tandt-consultancy.com/j-tunes.html. Download the file to a place where you can find it. Highlight it with your cursor, hit Enter, and (if necessary) tab through a security warning page that sometimes pops up in Windows until you see a button called RUN. Highlight RUN, hit Enter, and the program will run pretty much automatically, loading JAWS scripts for iTunes 7. These should work in any version of JAWS later than 5.1. You'll have to read through a few disclaimers, tab around at different points, and hit Enter when you see a NEXT button. But after a couple of times, you'll get a message stating that your computer must be re-started in order for the scripts to run. Do the restart process, and go through this same order of operations with your personalized iTunes Authorisation 3.1 file if you have purchased J-tunes and been given such a file. After the last reboot, open iTunes, and wait until you hear the phrase "iTunes loaded." Once you hear the word "loaded," then you'll know the iTunes interface scripts loaded successfully into JAWS when iTunes activated itself, so you'll be able to navigate the iTuens screen more easily using just your keyboard. So having presented that background, here goes, from the beginning: 1. Make sure your iPod is connected to your computer in such a way that your PC can detect its presence in Windows Explorer or in My Computer. Do this by enabling "Disk Use" in iTunes after making sure the iPod and iTunes are talking to each other. This is very important because, as we shall see, you'll have to manually create directories and move files into them using My Computer or Windows Explorer so you can see them as you want to see them in Rockbox. By default, your iPod is not visible to other Windows applications as being another disk drive; the way to change this is through a particular operation inside of iTunes. This is why you need to use iTunes and J-tunes in the very beginning, even though Rockbox eventually can free you from iTunes altogether if you don't like this Apple software. To "Enable Disk Use" is a fairly simple process once you're in iTunes; it involves setting a preference within iPod's Options page. If anyone visually impaired needs a greater understanding of how to do this without a mouse, please write to kbrolin65_at_gmail.com and I'll send you some instructions for that separately. You'll know you have performed Step #1 successfully when you go into My Computer or Windows Explorer and you actually see your iPod as a drive, with a letter assignment. On this laptop, for instance, my iPod is the E drive, just one letter up from my DVD drive. But when you go into Windows Explorer, don't expect to see your iTunes music library files there. Instead, you'll see four mostly-empty directories called CALENDAR, CONTACTS, DATA FILES, and NOTES. You may also see something there called "iPod Controller," which you should not erase or mess with in any way. None of these is especially important for what you want to do now. iTunes hides or encrypts your music library using a file structure that Microsoft Windows and Rockbox do not readily see. More on that when you come to actually using Rockbox in Steps #9 and #10. 2. Make sure you have all the files you will need to use as tools in giving a voice to Rockbox. Whether or not you're a gourmet cook, you probably know it's easier to maintain focus on what you're doing if you buy and gather up all the ingredients you'll need before baking a cake. There's nothing more frustrating than being in the middle of a creative or technical process and realizing halfway through that you don't have everything you need and don't know where to find it. you can get to an archive of daily builds for the iPod Video by going to http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=ipodvideo. As of this writing, the latest build is No. 14660. 3. Unzip the core Rockbox files, which are contained in the zipped archive you just downloaded. If you've used a compression/extraction utility program such as 7-Zip, PKZip, or Winzip, this isn't hard. All you have to do is click on the Rockbox program file, wait for Winzip or your other utility to open, then extract all contents of that compressed file into the root directory of your iPod. In other words, if the iPod uses drive letter E, just tell Winzip to extract all files to E:\. The Rockbox zipped archive is smart enough to know how the directories should be structured and how the individual files work with respect to one another and to your iPod. After the extraction has been done successfully, you should be able to open Windows Explorer or My Computer and see a fifth directory inside your iPod. It'll be called .ROCKBOX--and yes, the directory name begins with a period sign, not with the letter R. There will be other subdirectories and files inside of the .ROCKBOX directory, but you will seldom have to manipulate these very much. 4. Next comes the installation of fonts. I realize that a blind person generally doesn't care about or perceive fonts, since he/she won't be viewing the shape, color, or boldness of lettering on a screen or a page. But fonts matter to how Rockbox runs on your iPod, so it's important to install a cluster of 75 different font files separately. This is done in one operation, very similar to what you did with the core Rockbox application files in Step #3. Just click on a fonts package available from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras#Fonts and download as you did with the core Rockbox files. Click on this package after it has been downloaded by hitting the ENTER key. Then wait for your compression/extraction utility to open it, and direct it to extract to your E drive's root directory--presuming that's what letter your iPod occupies on your computer. Just as with the main Rockbox application, this program is intelligent enough to know where the fonts are to be extracted, so you don't need to create a Fonts subdirectory inside E:\.ROCKBOX. When you're done with this operation, though, you'll now see a new subdirectory called .ROCKBOX\FONTS that has been created, and it will contain all the separate fonts Rockbox needs to run. I think 75 different font files are included. Even if you upgrade the rest of Rockbox later to a newer build, you never should have to install fonts again. 5. Go back to the page from where you downloaded the core Rockbox files for your model. Right next to the software for your iPod build, you should see a companion voice file, usually referred to as English.voice, that has been put together to match the vbuild of Rockbox you just installed. Save this voice file to a place where you can find it on your computer. Then paste this file into the E:\.Rockbox\Langs folder on your iPod. You can do this through My Computer or Windows Explorer with a simple cut-and-paste operation. This represents the voice that will be reading menus and file names to you. This file must be called English.voice in order for Rockbox to recognize and use it. You can change the voice file later simply by replacing it with a new voice file, cutting and pasting the new one into Rockbox and overwriting the old English.voice you have grown tired of. 6. Now is perhaps the most critical piece: making it so Rockbox actually boots up with your iPod. You have to download the bootloader file that completes this install process. You can go straight to this file by going to http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe . First, download the file to your desktop or to some other place you can find. Then just highlight the file name, hit Enter, listen to the details screen that comes up, press the letter I (meaning install), and press the enter key. After awhile, you'll hear that the installation process has succeeded, and iPod Patcher will invite you to hit Enter again to close. Again, be patient. This takes a few minutes, even on a pretty fast Windows XP machine. 7. Download and run the Voicebox program. We've done the hardest work already, but you still have a problem: Rockbox has an installed voice, but has no idea how to read file names or directories to you so you can manipulate or play the contents of your iPod. As you may know from previous list discussions about this topic, Rockbox does not have an intelligent text-to-speech engine. Instead, files and directories are identified through a series of pre-recorded "talk clips" that your computer creates on demand using the primitive text-to-speech engine that Microsoft Windows offers. Voicebox enables you to update the talk clips on your iPod in a plug-and-play fashion. It examines the folder names and file names you have placed on your iPod—the ones that you can see from Windows Explorer thanks to what you did in Step #1 and what you will do in Step #8—and it allows those things to be voiced so you can navigate back and forth between them. You can find Voicebox at http://rockbox.aplcycling.org/voiceBox.zip. This is a free program, and it doesn't take long to run. You first unzip the files into a directory of your choosing, then run the executable which is called VOICEBOX.HTA. You run the program simply by highlighting the file called VOICEBOX.HTA and hitting the Enter key. Then you navigate through the start-up screen, making sure all options are checked that should be checked. In general, the defaults already are set the way you'll desire them. But you will have to tell Voicebox where your iPod is so it can place appropriate talk clips onto the iPod instead of onto another part of your computer. So at the edit box where it asks what drive you're running Voicebox on, simply type the letter name your computer has assigned the iPod to, followed by a colon. Your entry in this edit box will look like E: or F: for example. Tab to the field that says RUN VOICEBOX, hit Enter, and wait patiently. The operation does not tend to give you progress reports while it's running; but the iPod will make a crunching sound as Voicebox is installed or updated, and you can hear this sound if you gently pick up the iPod and hold it to your ear. It sounds much like the sound a computer makes as a new application is being installed. The iPod is, after all, just a uniquely designed little computer terminal with its own hard drive and a screen and headphone jack. When Voicebox has finished, you will hear a chime emanate from your computer's sound card and will hear the opening Voicebox screen again, which you can navigate through using the Tab key. JAWS speaks this screen very well without any kind of script or JAWS cursor gymnastics. 8. Now comes the fun part: actually loading your files onto the iPod. This is much easier for you to structure in Rockbox than it would be in iTunes, since iTunes has its own secret way of categorizing and even naming files from its library. But if you have songs on your computer that you wish to transfer to your iPod—or even songs on CDs, for that matter—you simply copy or move these from their present location on your hard drive or CD drive to the iPod drive. You do this using My Computer or Windows Explorer, using CTRL+C to copy whatever you've highlighted and CTRL+V to paste. This is a manual operation, not an automated one. Copying long lectures or even short music files can take a couple of minutes, since your iPod is an external drive that doesn't operate with quite the speed of your PC. But using the Rename function in Windows, you can put whatever names you want on the folders or files you've copied, being sure to always keep the three-letter extension at the end of the file name so that your iPod will know whether it's supposed to be running a .MP3 file, a .WAV file, or something else. When you're done, run Voicebox again; it will overwrite anything and add new talk clips as appropriate without your having to micro-manage the process. So Voicebox is automatic and self-executing, but creating directories you like and moving files into them is something you must regularly micro-manage. 9. This next step may be done with just the iPod as a stand-alone device. So it's time to unplug. Disconnect it from your computer, plug in the headset, and turn the iPod on by pressing the center of the scroll wheel. In case you don't hear talking within seconds, you're probably still running the Apple operating system. So to do a warm boot into Rockbox, press simultaneously the center of the scroll bar and the upper button on the controls—(these technically are called the SELECT and MENU buttons). Hold these down for a couple of seconds, then wait. You will hear a popping sound through the headphones. After this, you ought now to hear a voice when you try to mess with the scroll wheel. Now if you run your finger very slowly around the scroll wheel, as though you were turning a rotary volume control up and down, you actually will be scrolling through a series of menu choices such as FILE, DATABASE, SYSTEM, and SETTINGS. A good idea is to go into your SETTINGS folder, selecting it by highlighting it with the scroll wheel and then pressing the center of the wheel, which is the SELECT button. This will take you to a new set of menu choices that you will hear by scrolling around with the wheel. Rest on GENERAL SETTINGS, then hit Enter. This will take you to yet a third layer of menu choices, one of which is VOICE SETTINGS. Press the SELECT button yet again, and you will hear a series of choices that sound something like VOICE MENUS, VOICE DIRECTORIES, VOICE FILE NAMES, USE FILE .TALK CLIPS, and USE DIRECTORY .TALK CLIPS. Press Select in turn on each of these entries, then use your scroll wheel to choose the option you want inside this layer. Usually, you want to highlight YES on each option successively and then hit SELECT to get back out to VOICE SETTINGS again. In case you do want to refer to things inside databases iTunes has created, another thing you'll want to do here is to select VOICE FILE NAMES and then select SPELL, instead of OFF or NUMBERS. What this means is that in case you forget to run Voicebox, you'll still be able to hear your file names spelled by Rockbox even if they are not spoken properly through a .TALK clip. It's crude, but it works. You also can turn your iPod's voice volume up or down by going into SOUND SETTINGS—not GENERAL SETTINGS but SOUND SETTINGS—selecting VOLUME, and then running the scroll wheel counter-clockwise for up, clockwise for down, and hitting SELECT at the point where you feel the sound level is comfortable for you. 10. The final step is really optional, and it's most useful if you decide someday that you like iTunes and that you want to keep some things stored by iTunes in your iPod and refer to them through Rockbox. You do this not by referring to the files and directories you created yourself, but by referring to "databases" iTunes has created automatically through its proprietary process. From the opening "screen" of Rockbox, select SETTINGS, but then scroll to DATABASE, not to GENERAL SETTINGS as before. Once inside DATABASE SETTINGS, you can activate this aspect of Rockbox by scrolling to INITIALIZE NOW. Hit the Select button, then wait for a moment, and you'll then be able to go back out to the main menu, select DATABASE from that main menu, and hear things spelled—categories such as ALBUM and ARTIST. Every now and then, you can also choose to UPDATE your database from that same series of menu choices. That's it! If anyone has questions, please write me off-list at kbrolin65_at_gmail.com unless you want your question to be for general consumption. Please be specific in your subject line so that I know your question applies to these instructions. Doing so will induce a faster response from me. Also, I am open to suggestion. In case something is unclear, or unless your experience is different from mine, I would appreciate hearing about it. If you need further assistance, you can refer to a decent blind users' FAQ on the Net that assists us with answering the most frequent questions unsighted people have about iPod use. Actually, it was written for the Archos, which I believe is Microsoft's version of the iPod. But most principles apply for you and me as well. It's where I learned about Voicebox. The address is http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFAQ Good day. ======================================== -Kane On 9/10/07, Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/9/07, Michael Maslo <mmaslo1964_at_swbell.net> wrote: > > > > Hi list: > > > > Please can someone give me the proper steps to install Rockbox with the > > voice file to make it work? I have a problem with the build I have which > > is > > from uly 2007 where I can't turn the IPOD off. > > > > > > Also please can someone tell me what file to use? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Mike > > > > > Hi Mike, > > Try using RBUtil to install; it'll take care of everything for you. > > http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtilityQt > > > --Rob > (Rockbox user since 12/28/06; running on a 5.5G iPod video, 30GB, and Archos > Jukebox Recorder 20) > -- > Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route. > ============================== > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > ============================== > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1.2 > GCS/S/M/MU d- s+: a28 C++(+++) UL++++>$ P++ L+++ E+ W+ N+ o+ K++ w--- O- > M !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP(+) t+ 5++ X++ R tv b+++ DI+++ D++(---) G++ e+ h- > r++ y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > Received on 2007-09-10 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |