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Subject: [Fwd: Re: 5.5G iPod shutdown confusing the boot code?]

[Fwd: Re: 5.5G iPod shutdown confusing the boot code?]

From: Dave Woyciesjes <>
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:45:04 -0500

        Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Does anyone know if there is a
forum topic about this? I'll keep looking...

Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>> David Hall wrote:
>>> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>>>> Alex wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I've noticed that sometimes when Rockbox shuts down it leave the
>>>>> boot code confused as to the charge state of the battery. The
>>>>> iPod will refuse to boot with the usual Menu key and when plugged
>>>>> in to the USB reports very low battery. Once I give it the two
>>>>> finger salute and reboot into Rockbox everything is fine.
>>>>> Has anyone else seen this behaviour before?
>>>> I'm also wondering if this is related to the iPod being
>>>> formatted
>>>> FAT32. My iPod never gave me this kind of trouble until I had
>>>> reformatted on Windows iTunes to load Rockbox...
>>> Two things pop to mind:
>>> 1 - The low battery symbol pops up w/o a disk spinup.
>> When it happened to me, I didn't catch any low battery symbol.
>> I'm
>> not saying it didn't happen, I just didn't see it on my screen when
>> it
>> finally did power up. Of course, I did have it plugged in to a
>> charger
>> at those times. Next time I won't have it on a charger, to see...
>>> 2 - This happened to me when using the original firmware.
>> The only times I remember it happening is when I had Rockbox on
>> the iPod, in addition to the Apple firmware that gets loaded when I
>> did the Restore in iTunes v8 on Windows Vista Enterprise.
>> Rockbox was then dropped on using a Windows XP Pro Sp2 machine.
>> Rockbox Stable v3.1 & current r20102-090225.
>>> I think the assumption that this is not uncommon behavior even
>>> with the
>>> original firmware is well founded, as there:
>>> A - are reports of this happening to people who have never used
>>> Rockbox.
>>> B - is sound logic to the statement "bootloader problems are more
>>> likely
>>> to be seen the more often you use the bootloader" Active Rockbox
>>> users
>>> engage the bootloader possibly multiple times per day. Active Apple
>>> OS
>>> users rarely _if ever_ engage the bootloader.
>> Agreed.
>>> The only question, in my mind, is "does Rockbox increase the
>>> likelihood
>>> this bug is triggered?"
>>> This would be a time-consuming question to answer.
>> In my case, I would say yes, because of point B above. Before
>> Rockbox, I rarely kicked it over.
>> But another possibility, (I'm not a programmer but...) I presume
>> the firmware files are different for FAT32 and HFS, so I'm curious
>> which way the iPods are formatted when users experience this issue...
>> Again, time consuming question...
> Well, my iPod wouldn't start up this morning. I've been using it
> in
> iPod/iTunes mode for the past week+, without issue. This morning, had
> to
> give it the 2finger to get it going. When it finally started up, there
> was a quick flash before the Apple logo, but I couldn't catch of it
> was
> a low battery symbol. When it came all the way up, I did notice the
> battery was only at 50% charge. Which is very odd, since I didn't use
> it
> off charger for any length of time yesterday. It should've been at
> least
> 90%.
> Looking at the Last Played timestamp in iTunes shows what I
> expected. Nothing was played between 5:38 pm yesterday & 8:04 am
> today...
> Seems like it didn't properly go to sleep last night.

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