From: Christopher Chaltain <cchaltain_at_austin.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:50:27 -0500

On 6/12/2009 9:31 AM, Dj Paddy wrote:
> One screenreader who does read what you see is Apples Voice Over on lepoard
> and the soon to be released Snow Lepoard.
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
> Behalf Of Darren Duff
> Sent: 12 June 2009 14:57
>
> When I am browsing the net with jaws, I do not get a sense in my own mind of
> what the page actually looks like to someone looking at it on the screen.
>
> Because when I am browsing the web with jaws, jaws does not read the page as
> it is displayed on the screen
>
> FYI. Jaws and other screen readers will read the code that makes up the page
> rather then what you see on the page. So if the page isn't coded correctly
> even though it looks right a screen reader will not be able to read it
> properly.
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se [mailto:rockbox-bounces_at_cool.haxx.se] On
> Behalf Of alex wallis
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:44 AM
>
> When I am browsing the net with jaws, I do not get a sense in my own mind of
> what the page actually looks like to someone looking at it on the screen.
>
> Because when I am browsing the web with jaws, jaws does not read the page as
> it is displayed on the screen, when reading a page all I have to worry about
> is using the up and down keys to navigate in the page. I will then be shown
> the various links at the top of a page, text and maybe some links
> underneath.
> Of course what I am shown is different depending on the page.
> However for a screen reader user when browsing the web and looking at a page
> its just like reading a piece of paper from top to bottom.
> What I am trying to explain with all this background information is that if
> all the links on a page are on the right and text on the left for example we
> do not get a sense of that, to us, jaws shows us the text and links on the
> screen from top to bottom taking no account of how the page visually looks.
>
> I no this may seem off topic, but I am trying to explain how it is for us
> browsing the internet so you can understand the problem with the manuals and
> daily builds areas.
>
> When I am in the manuals area, it is impossible to easily find my way around
> and no what manual I am accessing until I have opened it.
> This is because the way jaws is reading the page to me and I presume other
> screen reader users we get a load of headings for the various players and
> the links to the on line, html or pdf versions.
> however the links are out of context with the headings so we don't no what
> player the link refers to.
>
>
>
JAWS will also present the web page the way it is laid out for a sighted user. Try the "screen layout" option of the "Document Presentation" setting. I'm not sure if it will help for this page or not.

Also, I'd encourage people to follow the list etiquette, namely:
- don't top post
- trim the material that you're not referring to in your reply
- don't use long signatures
- don't have your virus scanner append the fact that it's scanned your email to the end of your email

-- 
Christopher
cchaltain_at_austin.rr.com
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Received on 2009-06-13