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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: apologyRe: apology
From: Guest3731 <notconfusedaboutthattoday_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:57:49 -0500 Paul Louden wrote: > As I said, this is part of my problem. From my perspective, it's lying > if you join a list, claiming to agree to its guidelines, and then > disregard them. I'm unable to understand why people think it's > acceptable behaviour to lie about their agreement, or to complain about > such guidelines when they're notified that they overlooked their > existence. My own response would simply be "Oh, I wasn't aware that sort > of behaviour was required here. I'll do that from now on." > > [snip] It seems your expectations are so different from most peoples' that you will not be able to be happy as a support person. Most people who ask questions on lists like these are semi-technical, or non-technical people, who expect, and typically get, a fair degree of hand-holding (i.e. it's usually o.k. to ask dumb questions, and only asking the same dumb question more than once will generally call for an application of the Clue-bat - same goes for mailing-list etiquette). Rockbox is in an unusual space - it's a pretty sophisticated product, that really requires some technical know-how to fully appreciate. But it's also clearly something that will appeal to non-technical users - it's an upgrade of a product that everybody's got. So you kind of have to choose - do you want wider appeal? If so, you're going to get top-posters and non-trimmers, and yes, sorry, they're not going to get it when you make an issue over mailing-list etiquette. An appreciation of mailing-list etiquette is geeks-only territory. Most people don't, and won't, read Manuals. You can be upset about this, and stop making the product, but you can't change people. As for your understanding of the nature of the "agreement" that an enduser makes, implicitly, by posting to a technical mailing list - wow. No, sorry, your attitude is extraordinarily, drastically different than the attitudes of most technically-savvy, seasoned Usenet/mailing list types, not to mention your run-of-the-mill non-technical FAQ-asker. Nobody sees posting to a mailing list as an acknowledgment of a moral contract not to top-post, etc.. Everyone sees list guidelines as precisely that, guidelines, suggestions - if, that is, they've even read them. Sorry, this is just reality. Not one person in 1,000 thinks this has anything to do with lying. So, yes, you are the odd man out here. There's nothing that can be done by anyone in this situation except you - other people are never going to move in your direction. And unfortunately it's difficult to explain why this is so - it's just sort of a background understanding that one develops. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe: http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rockbox FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ Etiquette: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/etiquette.html Received on 2009-06-21 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |