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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: apologyRe: apology
From: Antony Stone <Antony.Stone_at_rockbox.open.source.it>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:30:18 +0100 On Sunday 21 June 2009 13:18, Rui Araújo wrote: > This is the rockbox mailing list which is hosted on their site and I > think it is strange to see peolple just whining about being told to > follow the guidelines. You replied to my posting with this, and I wasn't whining - I was pointing out how I thought it might be better for everyone if the rules were less strict. In fact, I don't see anyone whining about being told to follow the rules; just some people saying that the rules and their enforcement make the place unpleasant enough that they avoid posting, or leave altogether. I accept that it's entirely up to the list manager/s to decide how the list is run, who is allowed to post, what formats, languages, styles etc are permitted. In contrast to many other open source project mailing lists I've seen, Rockbox seems to put people off both contributing to the discussions, and indeed staying on the lists, because of the way the guidelines are enforced, and I'm simply trying to point out that I think this is not good for the project, hopefully not what the project managers want, and I believe could be improved by simply running the lists differently. > be nice, use correct English as much as possible and don't top post. > > Is this so hard? No. On the other hand, is it so hard for the people running the project / lists to accept that different people have different styles of communication, and it may be in their own interests to accept a wider group of contributors to the lists, and make the place a friendlier and more encouraging environment for people to discuss Rockbox, instead of insisting on "following the rules" more strongly than any other list I've seen, to the extent that some people are frightened to post, and others leave in disgust. > The real problem is that people find it anoying to be remembered of > this rules when they shouldn't. Agreed. But that is human nature. As a few other people have pointed out in this thread, many people don't read manuals, don't read guidelines, don't know how to use their mail client, and don't care as much as you do about rules. That is simply a fact about people and the way they behave. I'm not condoning it; I don't approve of it; but I do accept it as the way people are. I think the number of postings we see on these lists which really do deserve either to be ignored or told "no, we don't port to new players on request" etc. is very small, and I simply believe it would be better to accept that people have varied ways of communicating, and allow them to do so on these lists, than to restrict the group of people who discuss Rockbox to the apparently rather small minority who conform to the posting requirements. > There are guidelines. They should be followed. Period. No need to cry > now , ok? :D I'm merely suggesting that guidelines could be changed, if that is for the benefit of more people than keeping them the way they are. Antony. -- Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but rather when there is nothing left to take away. - Antoine de Saint-Exupery Please reply to the list; please don't CC me. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe: http://cool.haxx.se/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rockbox FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GeneralFAQ Etiquette: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/etiquette.htmlReceived on 2009-06-21 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |