dev builds
themes manual
device status forums
mailing lists
IRC bugs
dev guide

Rockbox mail archive

Subject: RE: Onkyo S-5300 and iPod Nano 1g

RE: Onkyo S-5300 and iPod Nano 1g

From: D!J!X! <>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 15:16:08 -0400

Thanks! Good idea... Will try that and see what happens. Just wondering, any
way i can get iTunes to recognize the music on the pod already and add it?


From: [] On
Behalf Of Jammit Timmaj
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Onkyo S-5300 and iPod Nano 1g

I'm not an expert on Rockbox, and I don't have an Onkyo s5300 so I probably
don't have the right answer. I see the Onkyo is using a Buur-Brown DAC in
it. Normally I don't think this would be a problem, but I believe Onkyo has
made a deal with Apple to allow them to use the Apple proprietary database
on the iPod to pull the music off of the iPod via the USB connection and
using their own DAC to directly convert digital to audio. The iPod dock
you're probably using doesn't do that. It pulls the audio not from the USB,
but from the analog part that's built into the dock with the USB. When the
Onkyo tries to read the iPod database, it sees there's nothing in the
database and gives up. You may want to add a few test songs to the iPod via
iTunes just to see if it works. If it does work you need a way to edit the
proprietary iPod database that's on the iPod to point to the Rockbox files.
I'd probably just move the music onto the computer, remove the music from
Rockbox, add the music back to the iPod via iTunes and the iPod normal OS.
After transferring the music to the iPod the Apple way, reboot into Rockbox
and have it rescan for your music.That way, both Apple OS and Rockbox have
the same data.


Subject: Onkyo S-5300 and iPod Nano 1g
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 04:10:38 -0400

My Onkyo s-5300 home theater comes with an accessory iPod dock. When I dock
my iPod nano 1g (running the latest iPod firmware and the latest Rockbox
official release) to my regular iPod docks, the iPod works with no problems;
meaning it plays instantly.
However, if I turn on or restart the iPod and dock it onto the s-5300's
dock, nothing will happen. I've checked the manual, tried everything I know
of, including turning the TV on before docking etc, diferent power on
orders, still no audible playback, though rockbox shows the wps and is
actually playing the music, since you can hear it through the headphones if
you plug them in.
If I put it on one of my regular iPod docks though, restart rockbox, start
playback of a song, then undock it from that dock and move it back to my
s-5300's dock, after about 30 secs or more, it'll start playing like
nothing. It however won't dock at all to my s-5300's dock unless I go
through the hassle of docking it on a regular iPod dock first and then
moving it over.
My question is, what could the cause be? I don't think it has to do with rb,
just wondering if there's some settings I can look at, or if there's
something I should do different? Could it be an issue with the ht's dock?
Perhaps the iPod?
Not sure why it works when the iPod is first docked and restarted on a
normal iPod dock. But if after it's working on the s-5300's dock, if I
restart it again, it won't work. The iPod does turn on, load rockbox etc,
but there's just no audible playback, so I have to do the same thing, take
it to a regular dock, dock it, restart it, start playback, then move it
back. Is there a startup flag or something that let's the pod know its
docked? How does rockbox handle docks, is it officially supported? As I
said, this is the first time I've encountered this, both of my regular docks
work fine though.
Also, when the s-5300's dock is working, I should be able to control it via
the home theater, however that doesn't work either. Could this part be
related to the fact that rockbox responds differently to remote/dock
commands, or it perhaps doesn't support that feature?
Sorry for the confusing explanations and bunch of questions, just trying to
give as many details as I can to reproduce the issue, since most people
might not know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm just trying to see if
anybody's ever encountered this problem/situation, or if anybody has any
ideas etc. I haven't loaded the iPod firmware and taken it for a spin on the
s-5300's dock directly, since I use rockbox exclusively, but I might try
that when I get a chance.
Any thoughts, comments, suggestions, questions or ideas welcome!
P.S. This is not such a big deal to me, but it's the first thing I find that
this awesome firmware (rockbox) can't do, so just want to see if I can fix
it or at least find the issue if it's not rb related.

Unsubscribe: FAQ: Etiquette:

Received on 2011-09-03

Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy