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Subject: Re: Further issues with creating voice files

Re: Further issues with creating voice files

From: Laz via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:02:37 -0400

Thanks for responding Dominik.

On 6/25/17, Dominik Riebeling via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:44 PM, Laz via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
> wrote:
>> Okay after fiddling with the new Rockbox Utility I was able to finally
>> create voice files using SAPI5 voices for both the Sansa Clip Plus and
>> Clip Zip. It seems to work okay for the Clip Zip but the Clip Plus
>> cuts off the first part of whatever comes up speaking when the player
>> is turned on, such as cent bookmarks instead of recent bookmarks,
>> after that things work well enough. The remaining issues on both
>
> Sounds like the silence cutoff doesn't work as expected. What voice
> are you using? Are you using the same voice on both players? Have you
> changed any settings for voice / encoder between those two?

I'm using the Microsoft David voice from Windows 10 on both players
with the same settings in the latest Rockbox Utility.

>> players are that any new menu items in the latest stable Rockbox
>> version aren't voiced. For example in sound settings the item between
>> volume and bass is silent, and there are several silent items between
>> dithering and Time stretch. While in Playback settings there is an
>> item called Western European between autochange directory and last .fm
>
> That doesn't belong there. There's something wrong with your voice

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

> file -- between those two entries there's "Constrain Auto-Change".
>> Apparently when the Rockbox Utility pulls the text to be voiced from
>> the installation it's missing these new items. I checked back on the
>
> No -- it's using wrong items. This happens when the file containing
> the texts is wrong. Which shouldn't happen when the installation
> works. I'm seeing a couple of possible reasons here:
>
> - When installing Rockbox you ran out of space on the player, which
> corrupted that file. Rockbox Utility checks for that, so it shouldn't
> happen, but maybe there is a corner case where this still can happen.

No. I use memory cards for any media files and have over 7GB free on
each player.

> - You have filesystem errors, which led to that file not being updated
> properly. I consider that the most likely reason.

Okay. On both players though?

>
>> voice which is downloadable from the Rockbox site and it speaks these
>> missing items. So can this be fixed in the new Rockbox Utility or can
>> the voice creation aspect be forced to get the list of items to be
>> voiced from the rockbox site instead of from the installation?
>
> Some time (years) ago Rockbox Utility retrieved the strings from the
> website. I don't know if this is still functional, and even if I don't
> think that would be a good idea -- if the voice file on the player is
> damaged (or somehow wrong) you clearly have an issue with the player.
> Getting the contents of that file from somewhere else won't fix that
> but just hide the problem.
>
> I can generate a voice file just fine for my Clip+ running 3.14. There
> is a problem with your installation. We cannot fix that in Rockbox
> Utility.

I have installed Rockbox both manually and with the Rockbox Utility
with the same results on both models of the Clip, Zip and Plus.

>
> Check the filesystem for errors, fix them (if any) and reinstall
> Rockbox, then recreate voice files. If that still fails uninstall
> Rockbox first (remove the .rockbox folder -- make sure to backup your
> settings first.)

i have checked both players for file errors and Windows 10 reported no
errors in either one. I then formatted them and started from scratch
with the Rockbox Utility with the same results.

>
>
> - Dominik
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