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Subject: Re: A bit of advice for the best player that works with the firmware Rockbox

Re: A bit of advice for the best player that works with the firmware Rockbox

From: Steph MM _at_ yahoo via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:48:55 +0000 (UTC)

 Hi Remy, Hi Sheldon,

I am a sighted french user...

For years I have been a sighted user of Sansa Clip, Clip+, Clip Zip. I never used the voice menus but indeed I was able to use it blind, as the physical controls were simple and effective.

Like Johannes it's unclear to me wether you successfully installed rockbox on your Clip+. If you need help for this I suppose I can help you over the phone : I haven't done it for years but together on the rockbox website and having both the Clip+ at hand, we should work it out...


(If or) once RB is running on your Clip+
Like Sheldon I enjoyed setting it up through configuration files (*.cfg)
Rockbox updates the main cfg file everytime you change a setting. The name of this file may depend on the player (I actually don't remember this name being<fixed.cfg>). Each time you are happy with it you can duplicate the fileas many times as you want and rename each file according to how it fits one situation or another. Duplicating the file can be done either with rockbox running or with a computer. You can also use your computer to manually edit your cfg files. If you need any help on this, again I can help over the phone, by email or both.

About the voice menus : I never used it but I guess I could figure it out. Sheldon settings and tips should help

About translation =
I work in a hospital and I have used some spare time when I was on night shifts to work on it. The work required is simple = a link takes you to a list of phrases to translate AND complicated = even though I'm familiar with tha vocabulary involved, often it's difficult to find a french translation that sounds appropriately clear to anyone. My understanding is that the french voice menus are usable as they are anyway. Once you will have started to use rockbox and the voice menus with your Clip+, we could have a chat about this and join our efforts to improve translation in a sensible way.

Note that I'll be doing night shifts again in october+november.

I'll send you my gmail address separately with subject = Rockbox

Tshaw !!
--
Steph
envoyé de mon aMac
     On Wednesday, 26 August 2020, 10:03:38 CEST, johnb via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se> wrote:  
 
 Hi Remy,
what Sheldon wrote is true, but answering your original questions:The clip+ should be great for your purposes. I have one running with voiced menus due to a broken screen. Alternatives would be Clip Zip or Sansa E200 (the version with FM radio). They are available used on *bay.
There is no need for you to translate anything. It's already done. French voice files are available on the rockbox website.
If you want me to, I can package a zip file for you with everything set up properly, so you just have to unzip onto your player.I suggest you run chkdsk on you player first. It was not completely clear to me whether you have installed Rockbox on your player (at least the bootloader).
CheersJohannes
Am Di., 25. Aug. 2020 um 23:39 Uhr schrieb Sheldon via rockbox <rockbox_at_cool.haxx.se>:
There may be differences between a clip plus and a clip zip.
Here's my fixed.cfg file, copied from the .rockbox folder.
A few comments.  I believe that rockbox will create a config file for 
you which you can copy to fixed.cfg
To use this file, just cut it into fixed.cfg
The big change you would want is to have the files and folders read what 
they are. To do that you need to create a file for each item beyond the 
main menu.  A text to speech application will do that. Or perhaps you 
can use the tags on mp3 files. From page 77 of the Clip plus manual.
Use File .talk Clips. This option turns on the use of .talk clips for 
files.
On. Use special pre-recorded files for each file. This functions the 
same as for directories except that the .talk clip file must have the 
same name as the described file with an extra .talk extension (e.g. 
Punkadiddle.mp3 would require a file called Punkadiddle.mp3.talk).
Off. No checking is made for file .talk clips; they are not used even if 
present. This can reduce disk activity. Use of a .talk clip takes 
precedence over other filename voicing. Otherwise (e.g. if a .talk cl
Or you could have the words spelled out. This is discussed starting on 
page 76 of the manual.. I only get the front menu and battery level 
announced. This config file is optimized for podcasts and audiobooks.  
For clip plus, the details of the config are in Appendix E of the 
manual, starting at page 195.  You want to change the talk options in 
the config file. They are set out on page 197. Here they are
talk dir  off, number, spell
talk dir clip off, on
talk file off, number, spell
talk file clip off, on
talk filetype off, on
talk menu off, on
Here is the fixed.cfg file I use.
# .cfg file created by rockbox 5b9a505-120522 -  for clip zip 
http://www.rockbox.org
repeat: off
shuffle: off
volume: -13
seek acceleration: fast
fms: /.rockbox/wps/clock_lock2_zip.fms
font: /.rockbox/fonts/13-Nimbus.fnt
wps: /.rockbox/wps/clock_lock2_zip.wps
bass: -17
treble: 3
backlight timeout: 20
backlight timeout plugged: 30
scrollbar width: 8
time format: 12hour
brightness: 15
scroll speed: 7
scroll delay: 600
Screen Scrolls Out Of View: on
scroll step: 31
screen scroll step: 13
scroll paginated: on
foreground color: B5B6B5
background color: 292C29
line selector start color: DE7D31
line selector end color: 5A3010
line selector text color: E7E7E7
show files: music
follow playlist: on
autocreate bookmarks: on
autoupdate bookmarks: on
use most-recent-bookmarks: unique
talk filetype: off
Announce Battery Level: on
rec path: /Recordings
rec mic gain: 1
autoresume enable: on
autoresume next track: all
crossfeed: on
timestretch enabled: on
dircache: off
show path in browser: off
rewind duration on pause: 5
fmr: /.rockbox/fmpresets/toronto fm rockbox.fmr
sbs: /.rockbox/wps/rayboradio_ypr0.sbs
backdrop: /.rockbox/backdrops/rayboradio_OB_bd.bmp
start in screen: wps
alarm wakeup screen: wps
iconset: /.rockbox/icons/contrastaa.bmp
viewers iconset: /.rockbox/icons/rayboradioOB_small_viewers.bmp
sleeptimer duration: 60
sleeptimer on startup: on
qs top: wps
qs left: wps
qs right: wps
qs bottom: wps
shortcuts instead of quickscreen: off
Timestretch mode: on
hotkey wps: pitchscreen
resume rewind: 10
root menu order: 
wps,shortcuts,bookmarks,files,wps,radio,recording,settings,plugins,system_menu,shortcuts,
Hope this helps
Sheldon
On 2020-08-25 4:51 PM, Rémy Ruiz via rockbox wrote:
> Hi Sheldon,
>
> Thanks very much, but can you please tel me  the code for build this 
> one, with exemple, thanks again.
>
> I have a Sansa clip plus.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Rémy
>
> Le 25/08/2020 à 21:54, Sheldon via rockbox a écrit :
>> I've had the fancier Sansas that used a touchscreen.  They break and 
>> you can't control them by touch in the dark. Currently, I have a 
>> sansa clip zip 4GB with a 32GB microsd card. All buttons.
>>
>> I'd say that almost as valuable as the player is the setup. I've got 
>> a configuration file designed for my use of listening to podcasts and 
>> audiobooks. Rockbox lets you use a file name fixed.cfg that will run 
>> everytime you turn on the player.  That way if you aren't happy with 
>> where you are in the menus, you just shut off the player and turn it 
>> back on and it runs the configuration file. I use that often. My file 
>> has automatic shut off after an hour with creation of a bookmark and 
>> starts up 5 seconds before I shut it off. The manual explains what 
>> you can do with a config file. There's an amazing amount of 
>> customization possible. You'll probably need someone sighted to set 
>> it up. Connect the player to a computer and create a file called 
>> fixed.cfg in the .rockbox folder that you edit following what the 
>> config pages at the end of the manual allow..I haven't changed mine 
>> for years.
>>
>>  I also shut off the database so that startup takes 5 to 10 seconds.
>>
>> Sheldon
>>
>>
>> On 2020-08-25 3:31 PM, Rémy Ruiz via rockbox wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> My name is Rémy Ruiz, I'm blind and i'm French.
>>>
>>> I tried to put a long time ago in a Sansa Clip Plus the firmware 
>>> Rockbox and this never works well, maybe the player has problems, do 
>>> not know, and I would like to have a council to have a player that 
>>> have radio FM, recorder and music player, and be simple to operate. 
>>> not  with touchscreen,  but has buttons (arrow keys etc.
>>> In a nutshell what the player works best with Rockbox with these 
>>> characteristics?
>>> thank you for your advice
>>>
>>> Also let me know if I could translate the files for Rockbox into 
>>> French so that they are updated, note'm not a'm not programmer, but 
>>> nothing like helping  by my spare time.
>>> Which are the source files to be translated? where they are?
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> Cheers.
>>> Rémy
>>>
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