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Subject: RE: len0x: apps settings.c,1.310,1.311

RE: len0x: apps settings.c,1.310,1.311

From: Daniel Stenberg <>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:11:26 +0100 (CET)

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Anton Oleynikov wrote:

>> Usability if you use and like the feature yes, it certainly is NOT if you
>> don't use it and aren't used to it. (Like for me.)
> Lest try to imagine this is not about existing users of RB.

As I see it, Rockbox is for everyone, be it old or new users.

>> Rockbox is made and designed by developers.
> Yes, but for whom???

I don't see how this is relevant. Users are most often not skilled nor trained
to make educated decisions on how the software should be done or work. They
whine and request, sure, but we must take decisions on how the software should
work because we see things in a wider perspective. At least we should, IMHO.

>> *We* should discuss and decide on what to do. And one of the main reasons
>> we started this *dev list is so that we can bring back the good old mailing
>> list developer discussions.
> It looks different from where I stand (and I know I'm not alone on this): it
> looks like some of main leaders of the project are afraid to loose control
> and be "not so important" anymore as many bright developers are joining the
> project.

Seriously. You think every single developer should just commit whatever they
think is "right" without discussing it with the rest?

I didn't say the "main leaders" would have anything more to say about any
matters than anyone else nor did I intend it.

I'm just advocating that you discuss changes before you do them. This is
nothing new. We've done it for years.

> P.S. Project as whole is indeed defined by its leaders, so when one of them
> makes remark like this in the forum: "You'll have to drag me kicking and
> screaming into that mess." - credibility of the project is shaking :)

No, it is not shaking. I'm stating my opinions and I do believe that this
particular thing (from where you extracted that quote) is a mess and I am very
firmly against it.

I'm a single person, I don't speak for the Rockbox project, I speak for myself
and about my personal opinions. When the day comes when we start to bend and
think "what will everyone think if I state my opinion in public" then I think
our project is doomed. We are not there. I will continue to write my opinion,
weather you like them or not. Weather I am alone with that opinion or not.

You are entitled to consider my opinions wrong, bad or totally crazy. They're
still mine.

With an open and free discussion things move forward.

  Daniel Stenberg -- --
Received on 2005-11-04

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