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Subject: Re: folder navigation questions

Re: folder navigation questions

From: Jens Arnold <>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:14:26 +0100

On 11.11.2005, Linus Nielsen Feltzing wrote:

> Jens Arnold wrote:

>> That means you can't skip forward directly followed by
>> fast-forwarding within the next track anymore, because it
>> would trigger folder skip?

> You'd have to be pretty fast to skip to the next track, find
> out that you want to fast forward and attempt to do it, all
> within 1 second. I tried, and I couldn't trigger the next-dir
> skip by mistake. Maybe I'm just old and slow... :-)

I could trigger it very easily. Of course it doesn't happen when
you skip to next track, listen first, then fast-forward. The
problem arises when you know beforehand that you want to
fast-forward after skip.

>> While I agree that folder skip might be useful for some
>> people (not for me), imho this short-long click combo is
>> another example for unintuitiveness: Here a combination of
>> two standard operations (short click == skip, hold button ==
>> seek) triggers something completely different (folder skip).

> Well, there are no intuitive combinations left, are there? Is
> *any* combination of keys intuitive?

I agree that button combos aren't really intuitive either.
This folder skip method introduces the new concept of button
sequences, hmm.

I don't see the need for this sequence on iriver, since there
is a plain button combo available for folder skip
(Play+Left/Right) and even assigned, so on iriver there are
now 2 ways to invoke folder skip. Otoh, the feature isn't
implemented for archos, where the On+Left/Right combos are
taken so a sequence would be the only option...

> We had a good long (private, unfortunately) discussion about
> which key combo to use instead of this "double-click" combo,

Quote from Daniel:

> default for "Follow playlist" option is set to "yes"

    I've not seen _any_ discussions about this change.


> but we couldn't figure out a nice one-handed way of doing it,
> at least not without changing major parts of the rest of the
> UI.

You can't do Play+Left/Right one-handed? ;-) It's possible, I
tried it, though a bit cumbersome...

Regards, Jens
Received on 2005-11-13

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