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Rockbox mail archiveSubject: Re: Simplified and uniform volume handling - asking for opinionsRe: Simplified and uniform volume handling - asking for opinions
From: Jens Arnold <arnold-j_at_t-online.de>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:55:04 +0100 On 06.12.2005, Daniel Stenberg wrote: >> I also believe that having a "prevent clipping" function >> similar to what Anton developed is beneficial to Rockbox, >> particularly with respect to making it more accessible to >> less sophisticated users. > All the discussions that have been held on this topic, that > I've read, have more or less stated that people have not > understood or liked the previous concept used by Rockbox, with > some stating that they'd prefer the original iriver fw method. > The approach Jens suggested has not been widely discussed or > tested. That's not entirely true. We do no clipping prevention on the archos Recorders and Ondios for years... >> we also retain at least the portion of Anton's "prevent >> clipping" function that scales back bass boost to prevent >> clipping. > Yes, we might have to. But we've had Jens' system for the > Archos models for years without needing a "prevent clipping" > option so I think it is a fair idea to go without that option > to start with. People are in fact used to stereo equipments > etc that clip when you drive everything to too high levels. > Also, it is not 100% clear exactly how the "scale back bass" > should work. That's relatively easy once we switch to dB volume - see my reply to [IDC]Dragon. >> Many of you have argued, in various ways, that Anton's >> approach is less desirable then Jens' approach because >> Anton's approach leads to undesirable option bloat. > That's only one reason. There are more reasons, including: > there are too much magic happenining under the hood and that > the options are very hard to understand/differentiate. Exactly. Imho there are too many options and all scaling appening behind the scenes. If deemed necessary at all, a simple 'prevent clipping: yes/no' should be enough, scaling back treble/bass, doing its work at the app level, with proper indication, and for all targets (!). >> It doesn't seem unreasonable for users to have at least ONE >> option (ON or OFF) with respect to clipping prevention. > ... nope, and there is no major resistance against such an > option. Just a mild "Do we really need it?" And a "How exactly > would such an option work?" And a "Such an option *really* > should be user-visible when in effect and how would that work > when the apps don't have detailed info about the DAC?" etc See above/ other posts. If there are no major objections, I'll commit my patch tonight. Then we can improve upon that. Regards, Jens Received on 2005-12-07 Page template was last modified "Tue Sep 7 00:00:02 2021" The Rockbox Crew -- Privacy Policy |