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Subject: Re: 5.5G iPod shutdown confusing the boot code?

Re: 5.5G iPod shutdown confusing the boot code?

From: Dave Woyciesjes <>
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:21:47 -0500

Alex Meyer wrote:
> David Hall wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Dave Woyciesjes
>> <> wrote:
>>> David Hall wrote:
>>>> Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
>>>> The only question, in my mind, is "does Rockbox increase the likelihood
>>>> this bug is triggered?"
>>>> This would be a time-consuming question to answer.
>>> In my case, I would say yes, because of point B above. Before
>>> Rockbox, I rarely kicked it over.
>> Semantics.
>> Point B is not increasing the /odds/ that the bug is triggered - it is
>> increasing the /opportunities/ for the bug to be triggered.
>> --soap
> Again arguing semantics, from an end user perspective, point B increases
> the odds that any given "shutdown" will trigger this issue.

        Well, the way I read David Hall's message, where he states:
> B - is sound logic to the statement "bootloader problems are more
> likely to be seen the more often you use the bootloader" Active
> Rockbox users engage the bootloader possibly multiple times per
> day. Active Apple OS users rarely _if ever_ engage the
> bootloader.
... which means (to me at least) bootloader bugs & issues are going to
be seen more often by people who use Rockbox all of the time.

        It's not that the odds of "the bug being trigged" are increased, it's
the odds of "the bug being seen by the user" that's increased.

        Of course, Alex, your comment depends on using a loose definition of
"shutdown". David Hall & I are going by the stricter definition, where
the device stops all processing; vs. merely going into a "sleep" mode or
turning off the display.

> And for what it's worth, it's not just the 5.5g. My 2nd gen Mini does
> the same thing from time to time, which leads me to believe that at a
> bare minimum it's a PP502x iPod issue.
        Not a surprise, actually...

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Received on 2009-03-02

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