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Subject: Re: Simpler solution?

Re: Simpler solution?

From: Paul Louden <>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:35:46 -0500

alex wallis wrote:
> Having the beep rather than the speech is more efficient than waiting
> for two or three letters to be read in a file name.

You don't need to wait for two or three letters to be read. The voice
won't stop unless it's the last item in the list.

> A beep is not as intrusive as speech
> The beep you hear it and then its over but the speech will begin
> reading the hole file name which I would find annoying.

The filename will still be read *after* the beep anyway, so I don't
understand this point at all.

> Plus, imagine for whatever reason your finger slips from the joystick
> or wheel before you reach what you have been looking for. You will
> hear the speech starting to read, so some people if they were
> impatient might think they had reached what they were looking for.

No, they won't, unless they're not thinking at all. If they're looking
for the end of the list, they'll simply press up once at the beginning
of the list. If they're looking for anything other than the end of the
list, they'll need to listen to what the list entry's name is anyway, to
determine whether it's the item they're seeking or not.

Seriously, half of your reasons for it seem to assume the person wants
to get to the end of the list. If this is the case, it's significantly
easier to just go up at the top than wait for a beep while scrolling.
The other half of your cases seem to assume the user is looking for
something, in which case the end of the list is mostly irrelevant since
that's not what they're looking for, and since scrolling will stop at
the end of the list anyway, when they reach it, they'll hear that it's
an item that's after the one they're looking for and start scrolling
backward, which is something they'd have to do anyway.

Instead of stating reasons why you think it's good, why not describe a
normal use where you need the beep for the player to be usable - what
would you be doing that requires knowing when you've specifically
reached the end of the list (rather than any item that is after the one
you're seeking), but where the end of the list is not your destination?
Received on 2009-06-15

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